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I don't quite understand what it means for a CPU to be built for web hosting. What makes this different than other server CPUs? Desktop CPUs?
 
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What makes this different than other server CPUs? Desktop CPUs?

MOAR COARS!!!!!!

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I don't quite understand what it means for a CPU to be built for web hosting. What makes this different than other server CPUs? Desktop CPUs?

I think they must just mean that it's got a low price:thread ratio. 8 threads for $100 .
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I think they must just mean that it's got a low price:thread ratio. 8 threads for $100 .
Hmm I see. So it's just wording/marketing and aggressive pricing then. I don't know anything about web publishing/hosting, so I assumed it was something like these CPUs were built differently or something.
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Hmm I see. So it's just wording/marketing and aggressive pricing then. I don't know anything about web publishing/hosting, so I assumed it was something like these CPUs were built differently or something.

They are not built to only do web hosting, its just the target AMD is aiming for. An 8 threaded processor that can handle a lot of load that doesn't use much power or run that hot for a ridiculously low price. For web hosting, you don't super fast single thread performance, you just need to be able to handle the load of visitor's your site is receiving, and these processors would be great for that.

These processors would be great for a home server as well.
Edited by konoii - 3/21/12 at 5:15pm
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I don't quite understand what it means for a CPU to be built for web hosting. What makes this different than other server CPUs? Desktop CPUs?

If you are a hoster you generally offer 4 types of services:

1. Dedicated web hosting. You get your own server, you pay $29 or $59 or $99 / month and everything on the box is yours. It is a physical machine. Typically 1P, very low cost systems, often the hosters will provide a desktop as a server to reach those price points.
2. Virtualized server. You buy a VM, it is one of many running on a 2P or 4P system.
3. Co-location. Bring your own, the hoster just provides power, network and rack space, the customer is responsible for the hardware.
4. Cloud services.

This product is targeted at #1. They are not sold based on performance, so comments about how fast is it don't matter, how MUCH is it will be the #1 purchase criteria., The quicker you can break even on hardware, the quicker you can make more money. This is about economics, not technology. 8 cores lets you upsell for more money, a server brand and server features lets you upsell from a desktop system.
post #37 of 42
They finally got the blog live, some more information about what it means to web hosters is here:

http://blogs.amd.com/work/2012/03/23/a-host-of-choices/
post #38 of 42
19% less power per core is crap considering their cores have less than 50% ipc of the intel chips
post #39 of 42
Got a server in Germany running the 3280 and 24GB of RAM currently. Working great so far.

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post #40 of 42
Outstanding, thanks for choosing Opteron
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