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If this did happen, and if it was even 80% of the one that happened in the late 1800's(forgot the actual date), This would destroy the world as we know it. Power grids would go out, satellites would go out, communication, cars, some planes(not all), some ships, and lots of other things would completely go out. It would cause the economy market to completely crash, with no power, nothing stops people from chaos, robbery and murder. Military would be useless other than infantry. Nuclear reactor's cooling systems would probably fail, but as far i as know most of them have Cages around them preventing EM's from effecting it. So those my stay on for a bit, but sooner or later the back up generators would go out as well.

It would take YEARS upon YEARS to recover from this, I'm not a believer, but man the next solar storm that is predicted to be at the end of 2012. December 21, 2012 anyone? Haha (Just saying it for giggles no need to flame me) smile.gif
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post #32 of 63
does this mean i'll be searched whenever i'm exposed to sunlight?
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a Proper CME could Overload your Gadget with or without them being plugged in.

Imagine for a short while, the air around you electrified as if it were a power grid.

I wonder if building Massive Spires like a tesla Coil would make sense as a precaution to this atleast at ground level, if they were able to suck up the Power right from the charged particles within the air, could have two uses, 1 Remvoe excess electrical interference created by the CME, 2 potentially store and reuse the energy for anything else.


I could be off though, ive been feeling dumb
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If your house was protected from this sort of thing... wouldn't it also be shielded from radio waves and from cell phone waves (whatever type they happen to be)?
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Sounds like we'll all be getting to play Fallout 3 for real.

 

I feel sorry for people with Pacemakers.

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I'm not particularly worried, the dangers posed by CMEs and our vulnerability to them are overstated, though not any where near as overstated as the dangers of terrorism.
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And, for whatever reason, you think the same storm that takes out Britain's grid won't affect the grid in the US?

Depends on the duration of the storm, the latitude, the horizon, and the relative robustness of each grid.
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Oh wait, is my laptop safe in the microwave? Turned off of course.

Probably safe on a table.
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Ice cores contain thin nitrate-rich layers that can be used to reconstruct a history of past events before reliable observations. These show evidence that events of this magnitude—as measured by high-energy proton radiation, not geomagnetic effect—occur approximately once per 500 years, with events at least one-fifth as large occurring several times per century.[9] Less severe storms have occurred in 1921 and 1960, when widespread radio disruption was reported. Another severe solar storm occurred in March 2012, with major disruption possibly limited only to a spacecraft closer to the Sun than Earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859
Still 300 years away. Even if it happens, you'd have no way of stopping it anyway. angrysmiley.gif. Plus, the geomagnetic effect might not be that large if it occurs.

Approximately once every 500 years is an average over geologic time scales.

Next such even could happen today, tomorrow, or 5,000 years from now.
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So your water heater works via solar panels? The only thing I'd imagine that would happen is that your water gets a little warmer than usual.

Not how solar water heaters or photovoltaic cells work.
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Lmao...your all missing the point. We have over 100 nuclear reactors in the United States and one good CME will knock out the grid which powers the cooling solutions for these reactors. We have made no concession in our reactor designs for this problem and would be ***** if a major CME occured. Imagine Fukushima Japan times every nuclear reactor around the globe. This would be an ELE...humanity would be done.

Not remotely so.

A few hundred reactor meltdowns, not that such a thing would happen (not every reactor has the same flaws as old GE BWR designs), would not kill a significant number of people, even if no effort was made to contain them (and efforts would be made).
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Next up, USA war on the sun rolleyes.gif

I usually don't get into this stuff but I have to admit that's golden wink.gif
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A few hundred reactor meltdowns, not that such a thing would happen (not every reactor has the same flaws as old GE BWR designs), would not kill a significant number of people, even if no effort was made to contain them (and efforts would be made).

We have many reactors that use the same Mark design that Fuku has...but that's not the problem. The problem is the grid being shut down and no power to run the cooling systems. It doesnt matter what reactor design you have, if you loose cooling its BOOM time....and if you have hundreds (USA) or thousands (world) of reactors going critical all at once, while planes are falling out of the sky, PCs are exploding, etc, etc, etc, then KYAG

Oh and LMAO at containing them...over a year later and Fuku is still leaking like a sieve.
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We have many reactors that use the same Mark design that Fuku has...but that's not the problem. The problem is the grid being shut down and no power to run the cooling systems. It doesnt matter what reactor design you have, if you loose cooling its BOOM time....and if you have hundreds (USA) or thousands (world) of reactors going critical all at once, while planes are falling out of the sky, PCs are exploding, etc, etc, etc, then KYAG

Oh and LMAO at containing them...over a year later and Fuku is still leaking like a sieve.

Lose cooling to hundreds of reactors? Thousands? All over the world?



Sweet, we'll all be mutant X-Men. Bring it on.
    
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Heh... I hate articles like these, It has nothing to do with the United States. this is Britain's Cabinet Office declaring the sun as a potential threat, nothing more. Yet the guy who decided to rewrite it made it seem like the whole world could come to an end because of the possibility of Britain's national grid going down during a solar wind storm...

LOL, because everything that's posted on OCN MUST originate in the US. rolleyes.gif
    
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