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This ITProPortal article cites an article from Toms' Hardware, and the Tom's Hardware article says nothing about a "clock for clock" improvement. It only indicates platform performance improvements.

How does this get interpreted as a "clock for clock" improvement?
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If its that good im ganna dump this rig and go back to matx mini rig.
we know the gpu numbers are legit why cant the cpu be?
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It WONT be faster clock for clock doh.gif
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i really hope these can crossfire with a 78xx, as i plan on buying a hybrid crossfire trinity laptop later this year
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Originally Posted by Alchemist07 View Post

It WONT be faster clock for clock doh.gif

It could be--whether the speed gains are entirely due to clock-for-clock differences, that's unlikely.

Personally, I couldn't care less if a new revision is faster than a previous revision because of improvements in clock-for-clock performance, or because they can achieve higher stock and turbo clocks. Faster is faster and that's not a bad thing for anyone--except the Slowskies.
    
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Originally Posted by Alchemist07 View Post

It WONT be faster clock for clock doh.gif

way to not read the article...
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post #27 of 32
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Originally Posted by guyladouche View Post

It could be--whether the speed gains are entirely due to clock-for-clock differences, that's unlikely.
Personally, I couldn't care less if a new revision is faster than a previous revision because of improvements in clock-for-clock performance, or because they can achieve higher stock and turbo clocks. Faster is faster and that's not a bad thing for anyone--except the Slowskies.
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way to not read the article...

If you know anything about trinity, you know that it is piledriver based and the leaks so far show that it is between 13~29% faster at FX-4100 level clocks.

Clock for clock, probably still slower than llano. Its true, but not that important since all that matters is Perf/Watt+Price


Read the ITProportal article and the cited Tomshardware article, youll see that Toms hardware never mention clock for clock, its just something ITproportal made up, hence the doh.gif
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that would have been helpful info in the first post of your accusations
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30% better.  That would be a massive improvement over Bulldozer if this is indeed a clock-for-clock value.  Pair that with much higher clock speed abilities at low power consumption thanks to resonant clock mesh (AMD's low-cost equivalent to 3D transistors).... I think we may have a winner this time around.  If these were indeed AMD claims and not those from another site I would see good reason to believe them.  When AMD made the somewhat mistaken claims about the BD architecture/FX processor it happened early into the final 32nm design (I don't even think any test chips were produced yet) and problems ended up making those early estimates wrong.  This is hardly early into design.  There have probably been several working examples now, as far early as before the BD release.  I think it might be more reasonable to set our expectations now.

Llano APU is about as fast as Phenom II clock-for-clock and various different tests put actual IPC at between 2% lower and 7% higher.  The APU being a 32nm chip clocks slightly (albeit only slightly because it's a die shrink) better than 45nm Phenom II.  AMD's FX provided equal or better IPS through better clock speeds but worse IPC.  If Piledriver cores can provide 30% better IPC AND better IPS than Llano - thus translating to even more IPC than 30% increase compared to Bulldozer - this might put Intel in serious danger.  Combine with that the use of HSA (Heterogenuous System Architecture or Fusion architecture) to leverage the GPU as the FPU portion of the chip, translating into even more CPU performance.... and AMD wins on all sides.  The desktop-based Piledriver core CPUs would probably be even better due to more strict binning, possible further design improvements, L3 cache, and high core count at the same or lower power consumption thanks to architecture improvements and Resonant Clock Mesh; but no iGPU, no HSA.

xd, it's CLEARLY a typo. 3.8/4.2 Trinity is 30% faster than 2.9 Llano.

It's not clock for clock. Come on.....
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30% is 30%
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