Thanks to you both! Good point about the age/frame of reference in that warning kagorus. I'm never sure just what I'm changing when it comes to those CCC upgrades or revisions. What I mean is that I'm more cautious than I need to be with those because, as you said, I can always revert.
And I was just stating what I was specifically told by that engineer at MSI that day for what it was worth to anyone. The reason I called MSI about it in the first place was because there were 2 MSI 7850 listed in Amazon, (I think it was Amazon), and the one that ended in "PE" had higher specs and cost $10.00 more. I wound up buying it from Newegg because even though they also showed the "PE" specs as higher, they left the prices the same.
But NOW when I checked at Newegg they actually have the one with the core clock stock at 860mhz costing more than the one with a 900mhz core!?: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=msi+r7850&x=20&y=7
I can't tell which is which from that ad or even from Amazon's ad.
Or the $20. difference in the Amazon add, (the first two listed):
You can easily see why I, (and I know I'm not the only one), would be confused and that's why I called MSI and bought the 7850 with the "PE" suffix in the S/N.
I don't know if that was an error on their part or not. I did see the same price differences in another store I believe but anyway the point is that the differences were shown. I checked out posts on this website and several others, (Thoms Hardware), and the people asking the same question I was were told that the PE did indeed have some 'beefer' cooling and the core clock was already turned up a bit, (this was about 4 months ago and I certainly can have a few details mixed up but the general facts are right).
This all went along with what that engineer said but frankly, I haven't seen anyone actually claim that they were able to OC one high than the other so it seems that maybe the cooling or materials used for the "PE" are the only difference. Either way, I sure as heck haven't clocked mine as high as many of the ones I've been seeing out there.
So that's the whole story for what it's worth:rolleyes: