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We understand the situation. It's just that this seems like is going the typical "can't figure out your problem" line. Problem → try this → not working → RMA → new card → same problem.

Hope this is not the case. We appreciate your time for making the consult. Keep us informed thumb.gif


Yeah, I hope that this isnt the case, I would hate to have to RMA my card for something as silly as this.
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Just got off the phone with XFX. Tech support said it is normal with the architecture due to the card throttling the clock speed higher (even the 1.998 V spike that I am seeing) . They said to disregard voltage spikes as long as you stay below 90 C then you are good; this is with me telling them I am sitting at 1.3 V 1300 Mhz.

Not sure if serious.... or if I am just ignorant.

Well that is curious... Curious indeed. I wonder if XFX is saying its normal because it is, or if they are saying its normal because they don't know why its happening. To simply disregard a voltage spike of 1.9v on a 28nm core seems silly to me. I would think a spike that large would instantaneously degrade the core. If you put 1.9v into a CPU, especially on air, bad things would happen....

Those were my thoughts as well. Which led me to ask what the max safe voltage was. Their reply: Just stay below 90 C. The guy I talked to seem very confident in the cards architecture. I told him I was maxing at 62 C at 1300 MHz (hypothetically) seeing voltage spikes of 1.6 and 1.998 V and he said I was fine and still had plenty of headroom.... hypothetically.

However, even after this conversation I am not entirely comfortable with pushing for 1350-1400 MHz because there is always that "what if?"

Now, when I overclock/overvolt the card are the settings stored on the gpu bios or only the driver/tweaking software? Reason being I am not sure if XFX does advanced RMA's if I do happen to fry my card. I don't want them getting my card, reading the bios, and seeing 1.3 V and 1400 MHz. If they would even take the time and money to check...
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anyone got 7850 over 1250/1450 stable? it seems that's max for my MSi R7850OC.
it's @ 1.185v (10% more than stock) and Power Tune is on 10% (not stable without this, crashes after 1-15min).
max temp is 75C after 2 hrs of BF3.

What program did you use to OC your Twin Frozr shockre? AB 2.2 causes my system to immediately crash and I can't find anything else with a fully unlocked voltage control.
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anyone got 7850 over 1250/1450 stable? it seems that's max for my MSi R7850OC.
it's @ 1.185v (10% more than stock) and Power Tune is on 10% (not stable without this, crashes after 1-15min).
max temp is 75C after 2 hrs of BF3.

What program did you use to OC your Twin Frozr shockre? AB 2.2 causes my system to immediately crash and I can't find anything else with a fully unlocked voltage control.

install asus gpu tweak, enable range enhancement in settings, reboot, set voltage and save to profile 1, set load on startup in settings, set clocks and power tune in ccc overdrive, reboot.

key part is setting only voltage in gpu tweak and after that clocks/power tune in overdrive.
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I want to get a 7850 but it's so hard to find them in stock.
    
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I can do 5.1Ghz but I think results using closer to stock or common speeds would help people if this were for beneficial purpose for a larger community. Maybe we can compare our results later using 5+ ghz clocks and see what best average speeds are. Input?

I want to test at higher cpu clocks because i think clock for clock the 7850 and 7870 will perform very close.
7870 owners might claim for a cpu bottleneck if we keep the cpu at a lower speed.
4,8ghz seems good for me to take all bottlenecks away.
5ghz take's over 1.5V for me so i rather stay at 4,8 or 4,9ghz.
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Agreed. I will be ordering first water blocks available too. I want to sink it under some serious cooling and see what they can do!
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Now, when I overclock/overvolt the card are the settings stored on the gpu bios or only the driver/tweaking software? Reason being I am not sure if XFX does advanced RMA's if I do happen to fry my card. I don't want them getting my card, reading the bios, and seeing 1.3 V and 1400 MHz. If they would even take the time and money to check...

They can't see it.. programs like AB and GPU-Tweak don't save settings on the card itself. And even if they did, XFX would still have to send you a new one upon RMA because you stayed within the boundries of voltages provided by XFX and AB/GPU-Tweak.
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Still could be a CPU bottleneck.
OC the CPU higher and see if GPU usage goes up aswell, or downclock and see if GPU usage goes down aswell.
Other thing could be Power Play.

OC'd it to 4GHz, nothing. Power tune to 20%, nothing.

I don't know what's going on. I installed the 12.4 beta drivers but it changed nothing.

I even downclocked the 7870 to 500/600 and still... Worst case is Bad Company 2 multiplayer where I'm at 65% gpu load, 50fps average.

I also tried Witcher 2, Crysis 1 and 2, Metro 2033, BF3. All these are no so bad, as they rearly drop from 90%. But they do drop to the 80s%.

Put back my old 6850 and works perfectly. 99% usage all the time.

My CPU load in single player games is about 40-50%, I really doubt this is bottlenecking.


I would appreciate if someone tells me how much gpu usage and fps are you getting in BC2 and Skyrim, or any of the other games I'm testing.


I'm getting the same thing here. Benchmarks like unigine and 3d mark11, and BF3 stress the card to 99%, but other games don't seem to do that.

Dead Island, Fuel, TDU, TDU2 keep the card at 65-70 percent. Skyrim also does not max the card. Frames are ok, since i'm not noticing low drops, and they mainly stay above 60. Don't think that a CPU bottleneck is the culprit, because in my case the 2500k is running at 4,3GHz.
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I'm getting the same thing here. Benchmarks like unigine and 3d mark11, and BF3 stress the card to 99%, but other games don't seem to do that.
Dead Island, Fuel, TDU, TDU2 keep the card at 65-70 percent. Skyrim also does not max the card. Frames are ok, since i'm not noticing low drops, and they mainly stay above 60. Don't think that a CPU bottleneck is the culprit, because in my case the 2500k is running at 4,3GHz.

Only way for me to get something like that is when i have an older or easy to run game and force 8 to 16X AA.
Sometimes the load drops to about 70~80% but most time's above 90%.
In those games i am running around 200FPS though.
[This from Kingdoms of Amular: Reckoning]

Skyrim does max my cards though, only at times when i get on the Vram limit it will drop.
So maybe check in Skyrim if your not hitting Vram limit.
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alrighty guys signed up the other day and here is my list of benchmark screen shots, overclocks and things of the like.


Graphics card = Reference Powercolor HD 7870 GHZ Edition 2GB
Core Clock = 1.2GHZ
Memory Clock = 1.4Ghz
Cooling = Stock
Max Fan Speed = 53%
Max Temp = 73C

artifact test
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short stress test
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call of pripyat benchmark fully maxed out
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heaven benchmark
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this one i have issues with it shows my clocks at 1100/1300 when you can see in afterburner its 1200/1400 im not sure why it does that but furmark does the same thing. im gona share it with you guys anyways.
435


im wanting to shoot for 1300 on the core clock but couldnt get it stable and i dont like my card going over 75c so i shut it down. im looking to water cool it as soon as blocks are released. ill keep you guys updated anytime i bench or overclock this card.

also the desktops are different due to fresh install of windows yesterday i got myself a nice ocz vertex 4 ssd. just in case anyone is wondering why there different.
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