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If you are seeing 1.168 at idle then it is nothing to be concerned about. At 2d or idle the card automatically ramps down to something like 300/500 (can't remember off the top of my head) and uses less voltage for power efficiency . However if you are seeing this voltage at full load in a 3d environment this might be something to look into. In a full load 3d environment the clock speeds will increase to whatever you have selected and voltage will increase to accommodate the rise in clock speeds. If your card is under full load at this voltage and not causing any hard locks or driver crashes then don't worry about it. If this is your MAX voltage under load you should definitely Overclock that card at 1.3 V and see what you can get out of it.

That was under full load, you can check my screenshot at previous page. No abnormal behaviour so far, gpu load and clock speeds working at max speeds during gaming or benchmarking. I guess i just feel curious about my low voltage at default stock. Sadly at 1.3v max i can get is only 1300/1550 (seems like 1300 clock speed is max number for 7870)
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Still around 600 points lower than me, and im only 13mhz higher in core clock than you. You pretty much supported what I already said tongue.gif.

Thats not 13% though.
If i get the clocks the same as you there might be 8% difference.
And thats just 3D Mark. We need more benches to see how it actually is.
8% in 3D mark might be less or more then 5% FPS in game's and/or Heaven 3.0

What i tryed showing with my own score is that you cant compare computers with eachother that easely, i got a higher score then the one you refered to with a lower clocked card so.

Btw, i am not trying to fight you, i am just well interessted in this wink.gif
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Thats not 13% though.
If i get the clocks the same as you there might be 8% difference.
And thats just 3D Mark. We need more benches to see how it actually is.
8% in 3D mark might be less or more then 5% FPS in game's and/or Heaven 3.0
What i tryed showing with my own score is that you cant compare computers with eachother that easely, i got a higher score then the one you refered to with a lower clocked card so.
Btw, i am not trying to fight you, i am just well interessted in this wink.gif

Im not going with overall score, im simply going with GPU score, because GPU score is less controlled by the specific systems variables. My comparison was with another user, at a higher clock than me on both CPU and GPU with similar system specifications, my score was 13% higher than his on the GPU score alone, not the overall. The GPU score is less impacted by the system, where as the overall score is impacted by the system much more. This is not to say that GPU score isnt effected by the system, but when comparing two systems with similar hardware, it is far more accurate than comparing the combined score, especially when his CPU is overclocked, and mine is not.

Your system is even further different from my own, you have 2 SSD's installed, 16gb's of ram (at a faster speed), and a 2600k at 4.8ghz. The other user was much more closer to my system specs, and therefore is more similar when compared with my system. Comparing your system to mine is like comparing apples to oranges at this point. The extra 5% difference between your score and mine may be indicative of the performance boost from your SSD and processor combination alone.
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Im not going with overall score, im simply going with GPU score, because GPU score is less controlled by the specific systems variables. My comparison was with another user, at a higher clock than me on both CPU and GPU with similar system specifications, my score was 13% higher than his on the GPU score alone, not the overall. The GPU score is less impacted by the system, where as the overall score is impacted by the system much more. This is not to say that GPU score isnt effected by the system, but when comparing two systems with similar hardware, it is far more accurate than comparing the combined score, especially when his CPU is overclocked, and mine is not.
Your system is even further different from my own, you have 2 SSD's installed, 16gb's of ram (at a faster speed), and a 2600k at 4.8ghz. The other user was much more closer to my system specs, and therefore is more similar when compared with my system. Comparing your system to mine is like comparing apples to oranges at this point. The extra 5% difference between your score and mine may be indicative of the performance boost from your SSD and processor combination alone.

I was only going by GPU score to, i sayed that to wink.gif
Dont think an SSD make's alot of difference.
The first time i mentioned i achieved over 7K on GPU was with an 2550K [if you look at beginning of forum you see i had a 2550K]

Overall score was over 7400 btw.

Maybe we can try a few other benches together clock for clock.
1050/1450mhz would be easiest though.
Game benchmarks would be best IMO.
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@Farih/Mattb2e

Maybe you two guys want to take a look at at this

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/Sapphire_HD_7850_OC/9.html

Its hd 7850 review with hd 7850 overclocked to 1050/1450 at several games and resolution, based on that review i kinda agree with Farih that hd 7870 is about 5% faster than hd 7850 when both card have the same clock speeds (although on that review hd 7850 got slightly higher clock and memory, 1050/1450 vs 1000/1200)
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@Farih/Mattb2e
Maybe you two guys want to take a look at at this
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/Sapphire_HD_7850_OC/9.html
Its hd 7850 review with hd 7850 overclocked to 1050/1450 at several games and resolution, based on that review i kinda agree with Farih that hd 7870 is about 5% faster than hd 7850 when both card have the same clock speeds (although on that review hd 7850 got slightly higher clock and memory, 1050/1450 vs 1000/1200)

Best would be just to get my hands on a 7870 and test it myself. smile.gif
I think maybe i was a bit understating 5% but it sure isnt 13% faster either. On average with the same clocks i expect a 8% difference in performance on the exact same computers.

Asked a sponsor for this review [7850 vs 7870 single and CF] but he only wanted to give a discount frown.gif
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I have two computers, one with a 7850 and one with a 7870.

at equal frequency goes up to 16% depending on the games.

At the location listed above, the 7870 is a 1000Mhz not 1050MHz , 5% !

Nothing more than a 1450 oc to 1200 memory saves 11% on Batman.
Edited by dockyfr - 5/1/12 at 10:12am
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Im not going with overall score, im simply going with GPU score, because GPU score is less controlled by the specific systems variables. My comparison was with another user, at a higher clock than me on both CPU and GPU with similar system specifications, my score was 13% higher than his on the GPU score alone, not the overall. The GPU score is less impacted by the system, where as the overall score is impacted by the system much more. This is not to say that GPU score isnt effected by the system, but when comparing two systems with similar hardware, it is far more accurate than comparing the combined score, especially when his CPU is overclocked, and mine is not.
Your system is even further different from my own, you have 2 SSD's installed, 16gb's of ram (at a faster speed), and a 2600k at 4.8ghz. The other user was much more closer to my system specs, and therefore is more similar when compared with my system. Comparing your system to mine is like comparing apples to oranges at this point. The extra 5% difference between your score and mine may be indicative of the performance boost from your SSD and processor combination alone.

I was only going by GPU score to, i sayed that to wink.gif
Dont think an SSD make's alot of difference.
The first time i mentioned i achieved over 7K on GPU was with an 2550K [if you look at beginning of forum you see i had a 2550K]

Overall score was over 7400 btw.

Maybe we can try a few other benches together clock for clock.
1050/1450mhz would be easiest though.
Game benchmarks would be best IMO.

I ran a 3dmark11 run at 1050/1450 on page 73

I got 6829 for GPU and P6781 at those settings http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3305139
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@Gzhil, same card like mine bro wink.gif my card can do 1300/1450 with 1.30volt just for benchmarks but for stable daily it has tobe lowered down to 1260/1450 with 1.30volt.
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hey guys if anyone has the reference power color 7870 Ghz Edition could you please do me a huge favor. i need a copy of the bios at stock clocks. im having some really odd issues as of late and have run out of options to test and it was recommended i try flashing the bios from the same card to see if that solves it.
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