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GTX 660Ti please.
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Originally Posted by soth7676 View Post

I will have to disagree with you there....AMD/ATI cards had this in the 5000 series.... the idle was called 2D clocks( for websurfing, and the like tasks) and then they had higher clocks, which it was listed as, called 3D clocks(for gaming and other 3D needed tasks)... Seems like the same thing here, just nvidia is doing it..

Both ATI and NVIDIA have been using such variable clocks for different power modes for many years.
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so if the clock goes OVER what it's starting value is... how is that NOT an overclock?

call it turbo, call it supercharged, call it an OC... they're all the same things...
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Would you people stop mowing over the turbo feature again and again.
The point of this is how much more can you get out of the 680? We already know how much more we can get out of the 7970, and it's a lot, and that matters before we can make a decision.
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I will have to disagree with you there....AMD/ATI cards had this in the 5000 series.... the idle was called 2D clocks( for websurfing, and the like tasks) and then they had higher clocks, which it was listed as, called 3D clocks(for gaming and other 3D needed tasks)... Seems like the same thing here, just nvidia is doing it..

This is something different. nVidia cards already had 2D and 3D clocks. This is more like turbo, not C1E or something.
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Would you people stop mowing over the turbo feature again and again.
The point of this is how much more can you get out of the 680? We already know how much more we can get out of the 7970, and it's a lot, and that matters before we can make a decision.

Bingo.
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All manufacturers release their cards and chips at a much lower rate than what it can perform at.
Some reviews on the i7 chips question why they were not at the overclocked speeds to begin with...

All for stability and longevity of the cards...

Just stating the obvious, but wait until more benches come out and am sure there will be some more overclocking headroom for more overclocking above this 'overclock...'
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Turbo is both. It adjusts the Core Clock to 1006MHz on load, and down to 706MHz on idle. I suppose overclockers will adjust that, or disable it and just overclock it and screw the power consumption on idle. It's like saying an i7 2600K at 4.8GHz isn't an overclock, just a power state, with turbo left on (if you leave turbo on).

agreed.
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The GTX 680 pushes itself over stock on certain programs. It's not the same thing. The GTX 680 is clearly overclocking itself on certain programs to above the stock 1006mhz. This is overclocking.
Nvidia probably measures TDP from the stock clock, not the turbo state. That means power consumption is higher than what they stated in their briefing slides.

This is pretty much exactly how Turbo works on Intel and AMD CPUs, but no one considers the turbo speeds to be an overclock, as they are part of the default spec.

Also my Radeon 69xx cards will throttle themselves to below stock clocks in some programs (crysis, metro 2033, a few distributed computing projects, and any strenuous stress test...which is pretty much the same thing.

As for power consumption, turbo clocks and OCP are usually based on some sort of TDP limiter. TDP does not refer to power consumption, it refers to the ability of the cooling system. It's likely that turbo clocks do not cause the card to overshoot TDP, but take advantage of TDP headroom like pretty much every other turbo implementation.
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The point of this is how much more can you get out of the 680? We already know how much more we can get out of the 7970, and it's a lot, and that matters before we can make a decision.

I agree.
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This is pretty much exactly how Turbo works on Intel and AMD CPUs, but no one considers the turbo speeds to be an overclock, as they are part of the default spec.
Also my Radeon 69xx cards will throttle themselves to below stock clocks in some programs (crysis, metro 2033, a few distributed computing projects, and any strenuous stress test...which is pretty much the same thing.
As for power consumption, turbo clocks and OCP are usually based on some sort of TDP limiter. TDP does not refer to power consumption, it refers to the ability of the cooling system. It's likely that turbo clocks do not cause the card to overshoot TDP, but take advantage of TDP headroom like pretty much every other turbo implementation.

Not really. That's throttling, and it's not the same thing as turbo. It shouldn't be doing that unless it's in an idle or lower power state. If you're running furmark or OCCT, the cards probably have a limiter on how much power is allowed to go to the card (even though it says you have OCP off, so even that shouldn't be the case for you), but I highly doubt that the card throttles itself to a lower clock in a game like Metro 2033 or Crysis unless it is overheating.

According to your sig, it sounds like you have modified your card, so in that instance, I wouldn't be surprised if the card is down clocking itself... but it shouldn't be doing that.
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