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Originally Posted by votum View Post

One decade?
Bet you 100 dollars nokia still sells more phones than anyone in the world. They suck at smartphones sure, thing is, most of the world doesn't use smart phones. We do, because we like being better than everyone else, and we do it in idiotic and trivial material ways like having cooler phones (which are not better, I think everyone would agree dumbphones are better phones)
You can't use trends in America to relate to the entire planet, because we don't dictate what the rest of the world does, we aren't that important.
+Nokia knows what they are doing more than any of us, or they would have hired us long ago.

Are you actually believing yourself. I am not "American" but I can tell you and everyone else that's competent and is current with technology that we actually do dictate the pace. I am originally from Bulgaria and I can tell you the moment those iPhones hit the market it was the hotest thing there. Fast forward, to today's date and everyone in a country that has a comparable economy to that of a third world one is suddenly walking around with androids and iphones. It is so bad that you can get killed for carrying a iphone by a kid. And yes that Nokia you posted was prominent in the 90s, its considered VERY old and 2000andlate. Apple set the bar WAY too high for any of these smartphone makers to reach it. FYI I am no fanboy and can tell you I speak from observations on the current trends. It all started here in the United States with the Iphone as the first marketable smartphone in mass production.
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One decade?
Bet you 100 dollars nokia still sells more phones than anyone in the world. They suck at smartphones sure, thing is, most of the world doesn't use smart phones. We do, because we like being better than everyone else, and we do it in idiotic and trivial material ways like having cooler phones (which are not better, I think everyone would agree dumbphones are better phones)
You can't use trends in America to relate to the entire planet, because we don't dictate what the rest of the world does, we aren't that important.
+Nokia knows what they are doing more than any of us, or they would have hired us long ago.

to some certain extent, Nokia does have something going for them. But with regards in stepping into the smart phone market, they havent much success, mainly due to the symbian OS that they have created and constantly been pushing against the likes of HTC, Apple, and etc using Android and iOS. It took them a really long time for them to decide to drop symbian and go with windows phone os for their smart phones.

No doubt, we can't use trends in America to relate to the entie planet, but Nokia does have goals in trying to gain market share here in the US since there's a huge demand and constant growth. No doubt Nokia is playing catch up, and that's indicator that they cannot afford to lose this opporunity knowing that the growth and profit margins from smart phones is big a thing here and later to the rest of the world.

At the end of the day, companies like Nokia exists to make money through maintaining and growing existing market share and to capturing new opportunities.

So far, the windows phones are pretty neat, that should give Nokia some traction in the smart phone market.
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The real issue with Nokia smartphones in the past was selling phones unsubsidized. I recall, all the Nokia fanboys were raving about the N8 (if it sold more than 200,000 units I'd be shocked). But in reality, who's paying $5-600 for an unlocked GSM phone? The majority of people only know about high-end phones that you can buy on contract.

Now, perhaps Nokia will gain ground. Personally I'm disappointed in Nokia for selling out to Windows (I won't even get into that, but I see Nokia WP7 as them taking blood money from M$, forcing them to kill off Meego). I'd rather see them go Android but Google isn't one to bribe manufacturers to use their OS. Hopefully Nokia finally gets something done right... but we all know Windows 8 will be a flop at least on desktops, so don't get your hopes up for mobile.
 
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That's not really fair to compare them when Android is allowed to run on even the smallest and cheapest devices. Windows has requirements for devices running their OS. So of course there will be slower devices running Android. What short-falling of Android are you referring to, if other than this?

Kind of an ironic argument, in a way.

For years, I've heard Apple fanboys talk about how bad Windows is on PCs, how it's unstable and prone to crashes, but their beloved Macs always work great and never crash.

But we all know why that is so. You can throw together a PC from low-end components, the crappiest stuff China can make, put Windows on it, and voila, you have a computer. It might not work very well or for very long, but it will run. Anybody in the world can install Windows on sub-optimal hardware. But Apple is a closed shop, and they don't put Mac OS X on hardware that can't run it well or reliably. So...you pit a crappy Windows box against anything Apple makes, and of course Apple wins.

If you think about it, Android is currently the "Windows" of smartphone OSes. Anybody can get a copy and put it on their phone, and it will work. Put it on good hardware and it will even work well. But a lot of manufacturers put it on crappy phones, just because they can. You can't just pick up a copy of iOS, WP7, or even Symbian, and put it on your crap phone.
     
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Since 2007... Get with the program. I've been modifying my lock screens for years.... Who would use a non rooted Android or iPhone? It takes less than a minute to unlock them. Do you use limited access accounts on Windows too?

I root my phone and I'm sure most on OCN do... however the majority of people do not root or jailbreak their devices.
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I agree with you however we pay more money than anyone by far for our cellular service because of subsidies. If Companies quit subsidizing phones and we paid full price our cellular service would be brought back into line. Besides, whats the difference between 200 or 300 dollars and 5 or 6 hundred when you look at the large scope of things?

The ~ $16 or so that the carriers would be able to save per month on not having to pay subsidies would go straight to their bottom line. The best you would get out of this on your plan would be no-contract. With the amount of data being used by smartphones these days carriers are looking to increase prices and limit service. Definitely not the opposite.
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The latest iPad launch removes all doubt from my mind that Apple is riding their name and not innovating at all. New iPad with a higher res screen and a slightly faster processor. *sigh* I miss when Apple actually led by innovation.
As far as the A5 or A6 or A5x or whatever the heck they're gonna release.... There's one problem. Qualcomm > Apple.
Dat Krait.
How are they not innovating? They're the first out with a super high resolution display, and they've got the biggest SoC around with quad-core graphics. And they've actually managed to get good battery life with it as well. By the way, the processor is the same speed.

We should see a dual-core A15 in the A6 and PowerVR SGX600 series graphics... that'll rival Krait, although we won't see the A6 until iPhone 5, or next year with iPad 4.
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I hope Nokia works on the case and makes it sleek and slim like a "futuristic" type thing (like the BEST CASE EVER THE iPHONE 4)
Also I hope the touch screen is reliable as in I hope it's smooth to use and when I slide the apps will slide smoothly and etc.
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It's a nokia, so yes biggrin.gif
I hope they do something completely different. The iPhone is dated in that you are so restricted.
But speaking of dated, this 2006 Macbook pro is so dated iPhone is not in it's dictionary and keeps thinking I am spelling something wrong.

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Are you actually believing yourself. I am not "American" but I can tell you and everyone else that's competent and is current with technology that we actually do dictate the pace. I am originally from Bulgaria and I can tell you the moment those iPhones hit the market it was the hotest thing there. Fast forward, to today's date and everyone in a country that has a comparable economy to that of a third world one is suddenly walking around with androids and iphones. It is so bad that you can get killed for carrying a iphone by a kid. And yes that Nokia you posted was prominent in the 90s, its considered VERY old and 2000andlate. Apple set the bar WAY too high for any of these smartphone makers to reach it. FYI I am no fanboy and can tell you I speak from observations on the current trends. It all started here in the United States with the Iphone as the first marketable smartphone in mass production.

Yes sir I am.

And the iphone was not a smart phone when it first came out. No MMS, no copy/paste? The iphone brought smartphones a little closer to everyday life but it was not a smartphone itself. If it was labeled as such it was not correctly.

Japan and South Korea dictate the pace of technology a bit more than we do unfortunately. We may dictate the trends...because people from poor countries see us on TV and want to be like us, but we don't really lead in much technology. Most cell phones with the exception of iPhones are released last in the US.

Google owns the smartphone OS market, so there is no way Apple set the bar too high to reach.

And the current trend in America is the iphone is becoming less popular, no one can argue that.

Also FYI a third world country is one without a developed economy. They typically have one main export that a developed country needs, and that is the only reason they have an economy at all. I would bet money that some kid from a third world country would kill you for your crappy acer laptop just as soon as for your iphone.

There is a reason Apple barely markets their phones outside the US...
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The iPhone does seem very out dated... lol no need to even fight back because it truly does. The only thing saving the iPhone is the OS.
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