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post #11 of 19
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Okay, a question: Whats the main difference between Intel965 and Intel975 chipsets?
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P965: newest chipset, designed specifically with Core 2 Duo in mind. Some motherboards have one PCI-E slot, others have two. Those with two can run Crossfire or SLI (with modded drivers) at x16 x4 bandwidth. Is generally the better overclocker of the two (except for some high-end 975X boards like the newest ABIT board and the very expensive ASUS P5W64)

975X: slightly older chipset; newest revision supporst Core 2 Duo. High-end, with more features than the P965 (although marginally). Supports Crossfire and SLI (with modded drivers) at x8, x8 bandwidth.

The P965 boards are slightly cheaper and generally better overclockers. If you do not plan dual graphic cards at any time, I would get a P965 based motherboard.
    
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post #13 of 19
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Yea i dont think i'd be usin SLI or Crossfire in the near future unless it becomes a necessity. I think i'd go for the ASUS P5B board with an E6400. The rest would be also as u suggested. I hope i get good deals on em! Its my first entry into the overclocking realm! Hope i dont end up fryin everything! Oh and im thinkin of gettin the Gigabyte Galaxy II water cooling kit. It fits my poseidon case well and i checked Toms Hardware which says its a pretty decent water cooling budget solution. They OC'd a 6400 usin it taking it to 3.5ghz i guess. I dunno how fast that'd be since i havent been using the new processors and am relying on reviews! The fastest one i've used is the Pentium M 1.8Ghz on my laptop
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3.5 GHz on a E6400 Core 2 Duo is blazing fast! You'll be looking at SuperPi 1MB times in the 16 sec. range.

This rig will handle anything you want game wise (except possibly a game like Oblivion totally maxed out)

What monitor do you have now
    
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I have a viewsonic 19inch 5 ms response time. I think the V19something. Right now, i'd want a pretty fast PC which can handle all the latest games at decent frame rates and convert videos and stuff. When i become a doctor, in bout 2 years and start my own career, i might build a high-end pc down the line My friend got an alienware ordered in november 2005, got here in april 2006(long time clearing customs, got misplaced!) and spent nearly 14000$ for something that cud be made with 5-6000$ max!! Specs were something like:
Pentium D 930 3.2ghz
4GB DDR2 633
ASUS board
2 overclocked 7800's
2TB storage
Watercooling
And now the Conroe processors are out! So comparin my PC setup to this Alienware, how'd it fare?
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You'd be not far off in gaming performance. The Dual 7800's will beat the single X1900 (or any other single card short of the 7950GX2, which is out of budget), but the Core 2 Duo will run circles around the D930

On the monitor you have, you'll be able to play most games at max settings, and some very GPU demanding games at a little less than max.

Also, do realize that within the two year time frame, DX10 will take root, and you might want to upgrade your video card in, let's say, about a year from now.

About the Alienware:
Who really uses 2TB storage space? I mean, even for video editing, that's a LOT of space.
4 GB RAM is overkill right now, although with Vista that will change. Get 2GB for now. You can always add.
Watercooling it nice, but the Core 2 Duo overclocks nice on air. Do remember that even at 3.0 GHz, it's more CPU power than you need right now.

Look at my rig, which cost me totally about $3,500 or so (not sure, since it was a process of upgrades...). I am sure it'll beat the Alienware convincingly (Core 2 Duo beats the D930, and the Crossfire X1900's beat the 7800's easily). Thus, your friend spent way too much, as you indicated yourself (ok my storage space is less, but if I made a RAID0 array of my drives, I still have 1TB)
    
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post #17 of 19
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Thats tight! Aight Chozart! Thanks a lot for ur help! Now if i can just get past the exams 3 days later and then goto GITEX and buy the components. I'll post again when i've built the system as i'd need a LOT of help overclocking my system. U never gave ur thoughts on the Galaxy Water cooling system!
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Oh didnt read the end of ur post! My bad So i shud invest in the Zalman air cooler?
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Oh sorry...

I don't have a lot of experience with water cooling. Generally, a high-end air solution can match a low-end water cooling solution.

You should post in the water cooling section of the forum to get opinions on water cooling. Since it tends to be hot in your country, water is definately worth looking into.

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