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Thanks lloyd, I know we don't always agree but I have more respect for you than plan9.
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My opinion.

With all that's been said. Ext4 just seems even more broken to me than before and even further makes me intend on continuing the use of Ext2 and Ext3.

I'm out now, before this really get's out of hand.
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My opinion.
With all that's been said. Ext4 just seems even more broken to me than before and even further makes me intend on continuing the use of Ext2 and Ext3.
I'm out now, before this really get's out of hand.

I'm all for heated debate. We in the Linux community are all friends as we are united by a cause :- great FOSS. But we need to be able to debate also. There is a thin line between debating and trolling/ insulting, but I don't think it's reached that stage yet. I say just stay at it.

And on that note:

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My opinion.
With all that's been said. Ext4 just seems even more broken to me than before and even further makes me intend on continuing the use of Ext2 and Ext3.
I'm out now, before this really get's out of hand.

It was actually a really big debate when EXT4 was in it's pre stages. Way back before they truncated the name, it was like EXT4_alpha or something. Anyways EXT4 has some severe improvements to speed, the problem is that legacy support. I could see business folk and server work requiring it, outside of that EXT4 is pretty much the replacement. You shouldn't ever have to mount EXT4 as EXT3 anyways. At least speaking from a mainly linux user, I see no reason as I would rather transfer files between win/linux in linux anyways.

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I'm all for heated debate. We in the Linux community are all friends as we are united by a cause :- great FOSS. But we need to be able to debate also. There is a thin line between debating and trolling/ insulting, but I don't think it's reached that stage yet. I say just stay at it.
And on that note:
jerry.gif

I was pretty close to telling him to sod off... Plan9 just wouldn't read ****, even my cited stuff. The only way I know you can't do it was because back when it started you couldn't format EXT4 in any linux installer. I wanted to test it, so I had to create my linux system with EXT3 then convert. This posed a problem, all my files wouldn't have the advantages until they got over written. So to counter this, I used a debian net install and printed out what I had to change. Mind you, this was all blind, as I didn't even know if my changes would work ok and I get a booting system. I did, after a few tries of tweaking my commands. Back then every guide said you won't be able to mount EXT4 as EXT3. Which made me really angry when I forgot to change ext3 to ext4 in fstab.... Needless to say I learned quick.

The point was, I could argue the same point over and over knowing it's true and he would keep up his end with his "knowledge". Despite me having sources that are reliable, I apparently still know what amounts to a plop of poop.
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post #67 of 77
ext4 has the nice discard option for an ssd that supports trim. use it if you have that!
ext2 is lean and mean, very much still has its place. It seems I do use it fairly often.
ext3 is like ext4 but just older, use ext4 wherever possible if you require journalizing. You cannot mount an ext4 block with -t ext3, doesn't work.

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post #68 of 77
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ext4 has the nice discard option for an ssd that supports trim. use it if you have that!
ext2 is lean and mean, very much still has its place. It seems I do use it fairly often.
ext3 is like ext4 but just older, use ext4 wherever possible if you require journalizing. You cannot mount an ext4 block with -t ext3, doesn't work.

EXT2 has it's uses, like /boot in a raid device, or situations where you don't require a journal. Generally I try and avoid EXT2 though as everything here is personal data and I like journals to (possibly) recover anything.
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EXT2 has it's uses....

lol 2 or 3 pages ago it was "obsolete" laugher.gif
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lol 2 or 3 pages ago it was "obsolete" laugher.gif

Yeah, embedded devices, /boot (only because you can't boot from raid). Outside of that, I don't agree with using it. I said that probably 2 or 3 pages ago too, I'm no longer getting quotes you can verify yourself.
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