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Originally Posted by Shrak View Post

That actually just checks Wired.com and not whether the article existed at the time of clicking. So useless. And also the article is about as arguable as the source of this one.

It says wired.com on the page, but that's because it only shows the root level. If you look at the full URL in your bar after clicking it, it checks the full path. But yes, that article is arguable, but makes good points.
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Just watching 0:34 to 0:40 coils it.

The movement is too rigid, especially when a body is bobbing up and down with that force (his feet and legs should be flailing).
170LBS human propelling himself upward by pushing air, the amount of force shown would never be done by a human.
And that 6 seconds just smells badly of CGI/editing.
Edited by pengs - 3/21/12 at 5:50pm
post #83 of 192
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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post

It says wired.com on the page, but that's because it only shows the root level. If you look at the full URL in your bar after clicking it, it checks the full path. But yes, that article is arguable, but makes good points.

It only checks the main site, as that is all that matters. If wired.com is up them wired.com/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc would register as up since it's on wired.com.

Here's an example, with my example; http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wired.com/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc

The actual link for comparison, http://www.wired.com/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc/etc

Only checking the websites root url. Nothing more. Furthermore, if you click on the link on the page or even hover it it just gives you the root url as well.

So using that to check an article, useless. Site, usefull. And it shows for me now, has since about 30 minutes after my first post. But it took about that long for it to load properly.
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Mission accomplished, these guys got a million views on Youtube. That alone probably made this weekend project worthwhile for them.

You can tell it's fake as soon as the music starts up. People doing legit stuff don't have high production values (someone needs to put that music track over a few videos from Boston Dynamics).
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So, no one notices the MASSIVE discrepancy between the look of the wings before and during take-off? They go from a matt-type texture to gloss RIGHT when the camera moves 'back'.

Anyone notice how in every take off video, they show the guy getting ready, then run back WHILE POINTING THE CAMERA AT THE GROUND, and THEN take off? In 13/14, the jump cut is amazingly bad. You can tell the lighting has changed due to the time of day changing.

In addition, the wing movement is all wrong. The video shows them going up & down, like most people assume a wing moves. The truth is, its more of a "row". The wing has to move BACK in order to push the thing forward. Its funny, because in an early (and also CG'd video), they show the rig doing the correct motion. However, in the 14/14 video, at about 0:35, the wings are just moving up and down.


Fake video is fake.
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So, no one notices the MASSIVE discrepancy between the look of the wings before and during take-off? They go from a matt-type texture to gloss RIGHT when the camera moves 'back'.
Anyone notice how in every take off video, they show the guy getting ready, then run back WHILE POINTING THE CAMERA AT THE GROUND, and THEN take off? In 13/14, the jump cut is amazingly bad. You can tell the lighting has changed due to the time of day changing.
In addition, the wing movement is all wrong. The video shows them going up & down, like most people assume a wing moves. The truth is, its more of a "row". The wing has to move BACK in order to push the thing forward. Its funny, because in an early (and also CG'd video), they show the rig doing the correct motion. However, in the 14/14 video, at about 0:35, the wings are just moving up and down.
Fake video is fake.

Most of which has been addressed here. It's not like it took one try for it to work. Whether it's fake or not, it probably took a good number of tries and they cut out the best of the best.
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So, no one notices the MASSIVE discrepancy between the look of the wings before and during take-off? They go from a matt-type texture to gloss RIGHT when the camera moves 'back'.
Anyone notice how in every take off video, they show the guy getting ready, then run back WHILE POINTING THE CAMERA AT THE GROUND, and THEN take off? In 13/14, the jump cut is amazingly bad. You can tell the lighting has changed due to the time of day changing.
In addition, the wing movement is all wrong. The video shows them going up & down, like most people assume a wing moves. The truth is, its more of a "row". The wing has to move BACK in order to push the thing forward. Its funny, because in an early (and also CG'd video), they show the rig doing the correct motion. However, in the 14/14 video, at about 0:35, the wings are just moving up and down.
Fake video is fake.

I just covered the intro stuff. They do that so they can do easy splices without it looking like crap. People who do skate videos do the same thing, it makes a single clean looking take. You might have hit those stairs 20 times before you finish. It's just lazyness if you want to get down to it, though who wants to do an "intro" 20 times, that takes up video footage (space) as well as your time.

[edit] Shrak beat me too it!
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[edit] Shrak beat me too it!
After reading the same objections and solutions almost 100 times now, figured I might as well just for lulz.
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After reading the same objections and solutions almost 100 times now, figured I might as well just for lulz.

Well it's just astounding at how many people can't read or use common sense. I really shouldn't be surprised and yet I am. it is the simple things too, like the "disappearing" shadow trick. Anyone with a hill of beans would have seen the shadow go into the woods, they would also know that as soon as the person takes off the shadow is going to move (disappear). I even read through all of the wired and gizmodo comments, they are just as bad.
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In addition, the wing movement is all wrong. The video shows them going up & down, like most people assume a wing moves. The truth is, its more of a "row". The wing has to move BACK in order to push the thing forward.

How most bird wings move is totally irrelevant, because this is not a bird. Any forward thrust generated (which is probably not even needed to perform the feat shown, since they are in a windy area on an incline) is made by the flexing of the trailing edge, sort of like a snorkeler's swim fin.

All your other criticisms have to do with how the takes were edited and put together, which says nothing about the feat itself.
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