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Well with Megaupload gone, allot of people are going back to torrent, the good thing about torrent is that it can be encrypted, making it harder for ISP to see what you are downloading, still with this measures, only thing that is gonna happen is that people will start using heavily encrypted files, want to see ISP beat that.

Torrent is still not that encrypted (as newsgroups). If they can duplicate the newsgroups encryption and be that updated like torrents then we're all good again.
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you can't hide torrents from your ISP. You really can't hide anything from your ISP. With enough time and effort they will always know what you do, you are "virtually" hard lined to them. Your traffic goes through them all the time, every time, day or night.
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you can't hide torrents from your ISP. You really can't hide anything from your ISP. With enough time and effort they will always know what you do, you are "virtually" hard lined to them. Your traffic goes through them all the time, every time, day or night.


Let me tell you something some IPS throttle Internet for users that use torrent, give it a search, a way to bypass that is to encrypet your data, and that can easily be done in most torrent clients, most ppl don't know but theres that option, if users can escape throttling just by using the torrent encryption there client provides, then it proves ISP aren't really that good at seeing what you are doing, with this new measures of spying on us, what will happen is that torrents will get a buff up in encryption, and give the middle finger to ISP, since breaking that encryption isn't an easy task, you would need some experienced hackers to do that, and the best are on our side of the fence.

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So how can we make our own INTERNET? Is Space a option with a Satellite?
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Let me tell you something some IPS throttle Internet for users that use torrent, give it a search, a way to bypass that is to encrypet your data, and that can easily be done in most torrent clients, most ppl don't know but theres that option, if users can escape throttling just by using the torrent encryption there client provides, then it proves ISP aren't really that good at seeing what you are doing, with this new measures of spying on us, what will happen is that torrents will get a buff up in encryption, and give the middle finger to ISP, since breaking that encryption isn't an easy task, you would need some experienced hackers to do that, and the best are on our side of the fence.


Still doesn't cover up the amount of bandwidth you use, they can still monitor that.
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Still doesn't cover up the amount of bandwidth you use, they can still monitor that.


Your right about that, but let see how things go.

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The ISP's in South Africa actually threw out the idea of doing this because they said it is not their problem what people do on the internet, the internet is not theirs, they only provide an access point to it, so who the **** gets to decide who can or can't police it. They went on blaming the bad business models of the current entertainment industry saying that with the success of iTunes, people are willing to pay for a product if its a good deal and they know they arn't getting riped off. ALSO adding that people in Government should first learn how the internet works before trying to change it because what may seem good for the entertainment industry may really hurt another industry which for small business or developing countries can criple their economy.
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I really wonder how will this effect Steam, Netflix, Pandora, Youtube...you name it. There are tons of websites, programs that are legit and uses heavy downloads. Hell, almost everyday i watch 2-3 movies on netflix, i almost ALWAYS have pandora running, i have a bad habit of deleting games on steam when i beat them and than re download them a week later because I'm bored and have nothing to do. How are they going to know what I'm downloading? Hell I USE uTorrent for the TED talks app and ZEN music(my friend hosts his own songs on it) and it is real free p2p. This is a sad, sad day.
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post #69 of 111
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Still doesn't cover up the amount of bandwidth you use, they can still monitor that.

Yes, but as i just posted above, I probably use more bandwidth a day than your average pirate from legitimate sites/programs. So what, they are going to ban me from Steam/Netflix/Pandora?
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post #70 of 111
I rather be in China... Where things might be censored. But at least i can download whatever the frank i like
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