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Hello,

I'm the artful dodger, and I have a newegg addiction.

So my sig rig is getting to be a pos. The motherboard doesn't like to oc stable, due to one it's being a hp, and two having a lack of suitable ram.

So before I drop some serious cash on an all new rig I plan on buying component upgrades, that will easily transfer from one build to the next. By using everything in my current build but replacing the mobo/ram for now, and later on picking up the /hdd ssd psu i5 2500k z68\ upgrade I really want I'm going to hopefully save some money to keep gaming in the short term, and not be homeless with a sick computer..

Do my plans seem reasonable ? The ram/ram heatsinks will swap out into the z68 and otherwise I'm only buying one thing thats non transferable. Whichever AMD mobo I purchase.

So currently thinking asrock extreme 3 970/990FX.

But I'm open to ideas for a solid stable mobo that I can oc the crap outah the 240 with!

I can't find anyone else overclocking the 240, or reviews on it's performance... But I can get 3.8 ghz out of it easily with the crap mobo. Almost 4, but the ram wont take it. The only way I would buy a different cpu, it's if mobo+ram+cpu was < $250.

And I'm def. Going samsung 4gb sticks, the crazy ones with xig heatsinks.

Edit: clarity/grammar










So if you can sort through all that and understand any of it, I'm all ears!
Edited by Artful Dodger - 3/21/12 at 2:47am
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Go for an 870 or 970 chipset board, so as to keep costs down, as you don't want to burn too much money on something temporary. My rig before the rig before this one had an Athlon 240, and it's a little screamer of a chip.
Get some nice DDR3 1600 which will transfer well.
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Yeah I have really been impressed with the 240. The tower came with a 7550, which had a tiny cache, sucked power and wouldn't oc past 2.8 ghz. got the 240 for $20.

That samsung 1600 is my goal, grab two 4gb sticks now and two more when I go i5.

I'm a total amd newbie,got the tower as a gift, but have been battling it's shortcoming at every turn. Really I have no clue about amd mobo selection. Other than I want reliable oc potential for my 240.


This all stemmed from bending cpu socket pins on my abit ip35 pro.. mad.gif
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Pick a board with some cooling on the CPU power circuits, little heatsinks (or even big ones) near the CPU socket is what you're looking for. Fit the memory, don't try and get the memory to 1600 speed, leave it at 1333, and then crank up the FSB, add a touch of CPU and CPU-NB voltage to suit, and you're done.

Edit: Since AMD likes tight timings over chip speed for memory, then you may get even more performance by turning the memory clock down even further, and turning down the timings, some boards will do great on auto memory settings, I got CL7 timings out of my old G-Skills with my Crosshair 3.
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Originally Posted by allikat View Post

Pick a board with some cooling on the CPU power circuits, little heatsinks (or even big ones) near the CPU socket is what you're looking for. Fit the memory, don't try and get the memory to 1600 speed, leave it at 1333, and then crank up the FSB, add a touch of CPU and CPU-NB voltage to suit, and you're done.
Edit: Since AMD likes tight timings over chip speed for memory, then you may get even more performance by turning the memory clock down even further, and turning down the timings, some boards will do great on auto memory settings, I got CL7 timings out of my old G-Skills with my Crosshair 3.


If the ram is 1600 to start with won't it default there? I've.never.messed with timings..

Looks like my current case it's micro atx only.

Oi
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138329

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186205

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138283
Edited by Artful Dodger - 3/21/12 at 3:38am
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Before my current rig I had the Biostar 990FX-E with a Phenom II X2 555. Overclocked like a champ at brought my 555 up to 4.1GHz on stock cooling redface.gif It was cheap as dirt when it first came out, too, only $115 or something. I'd highly recommend it.

EDIT: Yikes, I can't find the board anywhere. I guess it got discontinued...
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Misconception: AMD likes tight timings over speed.  This is NOT necessarily true.  Tight timings can actually provide the same difference that speed does in AMD's case in that it actually unlocks bandwidth unlike on Intel platforms in which it doresn't really do t hat, but that does not mean a complete preference for either one.  Tight timings helps those who want to squeeze bandwidth but do not have as capable an IMC for higher RAM speed running.;

 

The A780L3B is not overclocking ready with an AM2 design 3 phase VRM on the board.  At 4+1 phase the Foxconn has the largest VRM system and both that and the Biostar would be adequate for pushing an Athlon II x2 processor so long as the VRMs remain cooled and are not left with nothing through things such as tower heatsinks.

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Ok. This all helps!
I have seen the 240 unlocked to an opteron 1300¿? Worth trying?

Also just saw that the x2 7550 can be unlocked to a quad core?! Phenom 7750

I have a 7550 as well, would it outperform the 240???
Edited by Artful Dodger - 3/21/12 at 5:40pm
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Ok. This all helps!
I have seen the 240 unlocked to an opteron 1300¿? Worth trying?
Also just saw that the x2 7550 can be unlocked to a quad core?! Phenom 7750
I have a 7550 as well, would it outperform the 240???

R u kookoo.gif the X2 240 does not unlock ask XD_1771 buddy and HERE is the article too
whats your total budget for the current upgrade ?? thinking.gif
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I'm pretty sure that x2-240 is near it's max at 3.8ghz, even with a quality motherboard I wouldn't expect much more.

I wouldn't sink anymore money into that, sell it and switch to Intel.
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