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Hey, I've been out of the loop for awhile so I could really use some advice as to this build I have put together. My budget is 1800 euro.

Here is what I have spec'd out so far;

CPU: Intel i7 3930K
Mobo: Asus P9X79 PRO
RAM: 16GB (4x4) Corsair Vengeance 1600 DDR3
SSD: OCZ 120GB Vertex 3
OS: Windows 7 Premium 64bit
CPU cooler: Akasa Venom Voodoo
GPU: GTX 680 (once released)

The above parts bring me to about 1150 euro, without factoring in the GPU, which seems like it's going to retail at the 500-600 mark. And I plan to re-use my old PSU (Corsair TX850) and Thermaltake Armor case (which is definitely showing it's age..).

Now there are a few things I could swap around. For example I've thought about changing the CPU to an i7 3820 and getting the Asus Sabertooth instead. Or perhaps spending the cash on a new case.. but what are your thoughts?

Some extra info-
I game, primarily (at 1680x1050). Moving up from an i7 930 system and I plan to OC the new rig.
Edited by Tideman - 3/21/12 at 7:45am
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I would say keep your money for now and wait for the next Ivy Bridge Platform

It will be much cheaper, so you will be able to change your old case and old PSU if you want. And get a Corsair H100 for your CPU cooler or a custom watercooling build for an extra 100$-200$ so you can reach much higher clocks.

I just made the change from an i7 930 at 4.3 Ghz to a 3930k @ 4.8 Ghz and I don't even notice any BIG difference. My tip is wait for the IVY-Bridge.
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Get the Samsung 30nm ram, 1.35v + way lower price to clock up to 2400Mhz. check sig.

 
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I would say keep your money for now and wait for the next Ivy Bridge Platform
It will be much cheaper, so you will be able to change your old case and old PSU if you want. And get a Corsair H100 for your CPU cooler or a custom watercooling build for an extra 100$-200$ so you can reach much higher clocks.
I just made the change from an i7 930 at 4.3 Ghz to a 3930k @ 4.8 Ghz and I don't even notice any BIG difference. My tip is wait for the IVY-Bridge.

^this. take it from someone who has been there done that. downgraded from the i7950 to 960T did not see any difference either. lol

and yes, go with crucial or intel ssd.
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I would say keep your money for now and wait for the next Ivy Bridge Platform
It will be much cheaper, so you will be able to change your old case and old PSU if you want. And get a Corsair H100 for your CPU cooler or a custom watercooling build for an extra 100$-200$ so you can reach much higher clocks.
I just made the change from an i7 930 at 4.3 Ghz to a 3930k @ 4.8 Ghz and I don't even notice any BIG difference. My tip is wait for the IVY-Bridge.
You didn't see much difference? I'm surprised to hear that, so thanks for your feedback. Although my 930 is an awful chip and 3.8GHz seems to be it's limit, so I might noticed a bigger improvement from a a good OCer like the 3930K. That's the thing. And I suppose I want to be sure this time that my new system will last me for a good while, so that I don't have to upgrade for at least another year. Is it correct that the Ivy Bridge-E chips will utilize x79/LGA 2011? I thought I heard that somewhere, which is what made me wary of going the 1155 route.
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Get the Samsung 30nm ram, 1.35v + way lower price to clock up to 2400Mhz. check sig.
Hey, thanks for your suggestion. I looked into it but it seems my online retailer does not stock Samsung memory at all unfortunately.. The top brands it does have are Patriot, Kingston, Corsair and G. Skill. Any better choice out of those?
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I would say keep your money for now and wait for the next Ivy Bridge Platform
It will be much cheaper, so you will be able to change your old case and old PSU if you want. And get a Corsair H100 for your CPU cooler or a custom watercooling build for an extra 100$-200$ so you can reach much higher clocks.
I just made the change from an i7 930 at 4.3 Ghz to a 3930k @ 4.8 Ghz and I don't even notice any BIG difference. My tip is wait for the IVY-Bridge.


You won't see any differences with almost every CPU in games. The only thing you might see in differences are Multithreads applications, running 10x apps in the background + Virtual OS.

 

If OP are going to build for gaming purpose only. Yes, I would say get Ivy Bridge + VirtuMVP board, it will be by far the best gaming setup over any 2011 platforms. VirtuMVP gives you massive boost in FPS if supported by the game and driver. Aside all that, it saves you big on money.

 
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What do you plan on using the computer for?

The reason Karlitos didn't notice a difference is because his CPU wasn't his bottle neck, most likely because of games like BF3 which relay heavily on the GPU not the CPU.

I have a 3930k, and can barely use it with encoding/gaming/editing. The only time I max it out is with folding, it is a beastly CPU and overkill for your average user/gamer. If you do got with a 3930k, plan on a better cooler, something like the H100, or a custom water cooling loop if you expect to overclock.

If your going to spend that type of money on a mother board I would get something like the ASRock X79 Professional, save you money and get the same features with a rock solid board.

SSD choice is good in my eyes, I have an OCZ Agility 3 and have never had an issue.

As for memory, you don't need amazing memory for the x79 chipset, it seems to be able to overclock most chips pretty well. Just remember a high CPU OC, means that you won't be able to push your memory very far.
 
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Well obviously you won't see a difference in normal single threaded apps with a 3930k. I saw a huge increase in performance coming from an i7 2600k to the 3930k (check sig for specs), but I do a lot of video rendering in Premiere Pro. I can now render 1080p videos in a couple of minutes rather than the half hour I had to wait on the i7, not to mention editing at full quality without stutter is a joy.

From the sounds of it, you're interested in gaming. So wait for Ivy, because hex-core is overkill for gaming. You'll run a cooler chip and will be able to spend the extra money on a new case and psu. thumb.gif

EDIT* For your SSD, choose something with a Marvell controller like the Crucial M4. I've had issues with Sandforce random BSOD in the past.
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If gaming is your primary concern, then the sandy bridge-e platform is an absolutely terrible choice. I covered this just the other day... oh yes:

i7 = 4-core processor with hyperthreading
i7-39xx = 6-core processor with hyperthreading
i5 = 4 core processor
K or X = can be unlocked for overclocking (somewhat more expensive, moderate OC does not shorten the life of your processor, significant performance gain)

hyperthreading - essentially, simulates more cores (not really accurate, but it's enough to know only programs using more than 4 cores can really benefit from this)

Games - only ONE game is programmed to use more than 4 cores - Shogun 2: Total War. And even for that game, you won't see a practical benefit unless you're in an extreme-gaming situation (multi-monitor performance). Most games are even programmed for less (SC2 = 2 max cores, actually something of a design flaw).

This is why people constantly say i7s are useless for gaming. Marketing wise, people see i7 vs i5 & the $100 price tag and assume they must be better in some significant way. They're not. The i5-2500k is the best processor on the market for gamers. Ivy Bridge (next gen intel, release date end of april) will bring new names for the processors, but the setup will be the same. the i5 K-series overclockable ivy bridge will be the new best processor on the market for games.

So who does the use the i7? Heavily multithreaded workstation programs. Generally limited to 3D rendering artists, certain programs used by research scientists, major Auto-CAD programs (architects), and streaming (fits into the rendering category).

So if producing a very high graphics quality stream for others to watch is important to the gamer, they might consider the i7. But even a high quality 720p stream (of SC2) is easily doable on an overclocked i5-2500k.

Now I can understand trying to get the best system possible. But honestly, you're FAR better off getting a $600 or so cheaper sandy bridge or ivy bridge system and using that money building up to a larger resolution (a 2650x1440 or 2560x1600 monitor or a triple-monitor gaming setup) or, if you already have, say a very good 120mhz monitor to drive, getting SLI or Crossifre graphics cards. 2x 7870 > one 680. So are 2 680s.... assuming you have a monitor setup that can use them. One ordinary 1920x1080 doesn't cut it. P.S. I'd read a full review on the 680s before buying... it looks like they won't be better than similarly priced AMD cards for resolutions higher than 1920x1080.

Also, for CPU cooler I'd get a noctua nh-d14 or a thermalright silver arrow (air coolers are quieter than water cooling), you can see they are near the same performance from benchmarks somewhere I'm sure. The voodoo is fine, but the two I mentioned should be a bit quieter. Maybe not as cool-looking though.

For SSD I'd recommend a Samsung 830, Crucial m4, or Intel 520 for a stability bonus over the OCZ (whichever is cheaper at the size SSD you want). Non-Intel sandy bridge still sometimes cause BSODs on a few systems. You probably wouldn't be one of the unlucky ones...
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Okay guys, I've decided that I might be prepared to wait until Ivy Bridge. You've convinced me. Are you sure that by doing so I won't find my hardware out of date sooner than would be ideal though? Will the PCIe 2.0 be a problem in the immediate future, for example? I still can't get rid of this desire to be 'future proof'...
Oh and I forgot to mention that my current rig is actually out of action! My old 4870x2 and Hard drive died almost a year ago and I've since been confined to a Powerbook G4 mac lol.... So obviously I am itching to get back into some games again! I just hope that the wait for Ivy-Bridge will be worth it.. but I suppose I've lasted a year already..

I might think about getting a 2600k 2500k or something to tide me over perhaps? This all depends on how much cheaper the Sandy Bridge range is though..
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