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Originally Posted by AddictedGamer93 View Post

It is a mid range part, I expect mid range price.

Then you don't understand supply and demand. The fastest GPU on the market will have likely the highest price, period. The only difference between mid-range and high-range part is the cost to Nvidia, not you. Capitalism....deal with it.

The 7970 may be priced higher, but I don't expect that to last for long.
Edited by lordikon - 3/21/12 at 1:59pm
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Knowing nvidia, price competition isn't what they usually do... I predicted the gtx680 would performs between a 7950/7970 looks like the price is set to perfectly compete into this price segment (worst than a 7970, better than the 7950).
Where nvidia will win by a lot is in the optimized games such BF3 where it will likely performs better than the 7970.
Only time will tell us, but so far every prediction I made were correct... Rumour rolleyes.gif

With the exception of 28nm yield and/or supply issues, they have a good degree of flexibility regarding price. GK104 was slated to fill the mainstream performance segment occupied by GF104. By reaching a comparable level of performance to that of the HD 7970 they are able to repackage this card as their flagship until GK110 is ready to go. They did not have this flexibility with GTX480/580, which have larger dies and should be more expensive to produce. (Again, process issues not withstanding)
    
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Would a 680 be bottlenecked by a phenom 955?
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Would a 680 be bottlenecked by a phenom 955?

Magic eight-ball says "surely, but it's a great upgrade regardless".

EDIT: If you mean for your sig rig though, I would spread the love around to other parts of your system before upgrading the video card smile.gif. A nice 2500K + motherboard would run you less than $400 and probably give a better overall performance level & bang/buck. Grab a 128gb SSD with the remainder biggrin.gif.
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Would a 680 be bottlenecked by a phenom 955?

Playing BF3 with 955 @ 4.2Ghz and GTX470 @ 825Mhz i get ~ 92% GPU usage and this is TDM where CPU is not very important. I would say GTX680 will not help you much.
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post #116 of 369
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Could my Theory be right?
This is just a GTX670 turned into GTX680?
For example if Fermi was not so power Hungry you could of had a GTX470 (608Mhz Stock) Come stock @ 775Mhz and Turbo 825Mhz. Thats surely as fast or faster then GTX480. This card Started @ 700Mhz and now its hitting 1100Mhz+. In a sense if this does not OC more then 1.2Ghz they are just selling OC performance. If this card came stock @ 700Mhz it would be slower then HD 7950 or as fast but the Overclocker would take it far more then that. I hope it overclocks or my theory could be right.

We can't say for sure if they ever thought this could be a GTX670, given that it would be an enthusiast card with GTX 580 like performance, when in the previous generation the GTX 460 was strictly a midrange card and it performed better than a GTX 285. So, in terms of naming they would be bumping GTX 660 to GTX 670 status.

It could be the case that they eventually found out that the architecture was doing better than what they thought and that this was too good and clocked well to be a midrange card, so, instead of having a second fastest card contender, they went the extra mile and clocked it at top of the line enthusiast performance level.

In any case, if my completely unexplainable math is correct, AMD didn't release the HD 7970 Ghz Edition at launch on purpose. They will probably do it now with a 1075 Mhz clockspeed and, along with performance drivers, it will match the GTX 680. The performance per clock between both architectures differs by around 75 Mhz.
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Would a 680 be bottlenecked by a phenom 955?

You will experience a bottleneck, but you should still see an improvement in performance.

You want to see a true bottleneck? I once ran a GTS 450 with an Atom 330. The card was so bottlenecked it could not reach its full clock speed under load wink.gif
    
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2500k prices will probably be going down a bit more soon than they already have. I'd go with Sandy before Kepler
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Looks like a great card, I hope its great and lowers the price of current GPU's on the market.
It should with the 7970 being out for a while now, most consumers jumped on the AMD wagon. The only way Nvidia can shed a good profit off this is to price it lower then the 7970 even if it does perform better. thumb.gif
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So when you self-overclock the gpu, are we overclocking the Turbo end? Or does Turbo feature get disabled as soon as we manually OC. What ya think...
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That would be my guess, the card thinking its permanently in boost mode. Tho we could be wrong... tongue.gif
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It should with the 7970 being out for a while now, most consumers jumped on the AMD wagon. The only way Nvidia can shed a good profit off this is to price it lower then the 7970 even if it does perform better. thumb.gif
That would be my guess, the card thinking its permanently in boost mode. Tho we could be wrong... tongue.gif

I think you underestimate the patience people have when they know another launch is about to hit tongue.gif.

Tools already are released for proper GK104 clocking. I posted it on Page 2 (MSI Afterburner beta). http://www.overclock.net/t/1232243/yt-nvidia-gtx680-no-fake/40_40#post_16770365
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