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I love how some of you guys think this is something ground breaking. rolleyes.gif
7970 has been out for 2 months with this same exact performance after overclocking.....

I disagree, judging by the charts and review performances. In some titles especially the GTX 680 is performing far better than the Radeon 7970, as well as performing 15-20% better in virtually all titles.

OC's vary, but even there, comparing a max OC that not even all 7970's hit on quite a bit higher-than-stock voltages, (and I'd assume a 45%+ fan profile which for the 7970 is loud in my opinion) vs. a stock volt, auto-fan, quiet review OC of the GTX 680 is *not* a valid comparison.

Plus, the 7970 is tapped-out on drivers likely at this point 2.5 months after release, while the GTX 680 has room for improvement as it's just the launch set. Add in the better price, heat, noise, and (arguably) drivers (especially SLI vs crossfire) and it's a compelling package.


How do you validate this information , we don't have full info(full review, overclock, benchmarks) yet ?..

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Wouldn't know.. Adblock is a must nowadays, highly recommend getting it. tongue.gif

Yeah, drive-by infected banners or script hacks on sites are all the rage now frown.gif. I use it on most sites, though not all.
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I stopped reading after this image.....
1) They used probably a 3930k or 3960k for that review, maybe a 5GHz 2600k or 2700k.
2) My 7970 pulls 74xx stock in the P tests with my i5 at 5.1GHz. This shows the CPU difference in these tests above to be at LEAST 500 points between my CPU and the one in this review (the review being stronger).
3) After overclocking my 7970 to a simple 1200MHz (which is easy to do), I get P98xx. Assuming the CPU difference is linear between my results and this chart...that would put me at roughly P103xx. So honestly, the 680 isn't any more powerful than the 7970 after overclocking.
Meh, guess I'll stick with the 7970 then. Was tempted to do the side grade option, but seeing this result...yeah definitely not now.

That's not a full overclock. You shouldn't of stopped reading. tongue.gif That's only +154 to the core, very minor OC.

Stock 680 vs Stock 7970, according to that, is a 1500pt difference. The 680 has lower temps and less power draw, and probably will overclock better. I don' think the 7970 will compete with it even when overclocked, it looks like it'll still be 1500+ pts off.
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I love how some of you guys think this is something ground breaking. rolleyes.gif
7970 has been out for 2 months with this same exact performance after overclocking.....

I'm really not seeing how you came to the conclusion from that chart... A minor overclock to the 680's core only and it's equal to the 7970s max overclock is what i'm seeing...
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How do you validate this information , we don't have full info(full review, overclock, benchmarks) yet ?..

We have a very clear picture from multiple reviewer's graphs. No, we don't know every last detail, but we know most of them smile.gif.
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I love how some of you guys think this is something ground breaking. rolleyes.gif

7970 has been out for 2 months with this same exact performance after overclocking.....


I disagree, judging by the charts and review performances. In some titles especially the GTX 680 is performing far better than the Radeon 7970, as well as performing 15-20% better in virtually all titles.


OC's vary, but even there, comparing a max OC that not even all 7970's hit on quite a bit higher-than-stock voltages, (and I'd assume a 45%+ fan profile which for the 7970 is loud in my opinion) vs. a stock volt, auto-fan, quiet review OC of the GTX 680 is *not* a valid comparison.


Plus, the 7970 is tapped-out on drivers likely at this point 2.5 months after release, while the GTX 680 has room for improvement as it's just the launch set. Add in the better price, heat, noise, and (arguably) drivers (especially SLI vs crossfire) and it's a compelling package.


How do you validate this information , we don't have full info(full review, overclock, benchmarks) yet ?..

Judging by the Heaven benchmarks I personally did with my 7970 vs another members GTX 680 the other day, and now those 3DMark11 scores.... 7970 = GTX 680 in at the very least...those 2 tests. I'll bet gaming performance they'll literally trade blows with each other differing by a mere few frames.

I wanted a 680 myself as well, so don't get me wrong. But its pointless for me to spend money on one, when I could take that money and throw it at a waterblock for my 7970 and handily beat the 680.
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I am personally thinking I may go with the GTX 680, but not because it is crushing the 7970 because from those charts it seems to trade blows and stay pretty close to me. The main reason I am going Nvidia is because they have better drivers and I can save $50 and get the same performance. I just hope this card can handle BF3 in Surround with 2GB of VRAM. If not it's going back.

AMD WILL DROP PRICES once GTX 680 comes out. not taking either side but i do agree the GTX 680 doesn't crush the 7970, it trades blows with it.

max OC's should determine the cards. the 7970 OC's like crazy (don't know about the GTX 680) but it seems OC'd 7970 can match the GTX 680.

oh and waiting for final reviews
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Judging by the Heaven benchmarks I personally did with my 7970 vs another members GTX 680 the other day, and now those 3DMark11 scores.... 7970 = GTX 680 in at the very least...those 2 tests. I'll bet gaming performance they'll literally trade blows with each other differing by a mere few frames.
I wanted a 680 myself as well, so don't get me wrong. But its pointless for me to spend money on one, when I could take that money and throw it at a waterblock for my 7970 and handily beat the 680.


Have you seen the other charts? There's about 3 fully leaked review charts out there now. The only game that i've seen that the 7970 wins in is Metro, by about 5%. The 680 is nearly 40% better than the 7970 in skyrim (that's the best result).

http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-1857625-1-1.html
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=9220111&postcount=7531
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-review-dethrones-hd-7970-edges-gtx-590-benchmarks/
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How do you validate this information , we don't have full info(full review, overclock, benchmarks) yet ?..

We have a very clear picture from multiple reviewer's graphs. No, we don't know every last detail, but we know most of them smile.gif.

OK... so a Base clock of 1008MHz, with turbo about 1100MHz.

I get the feeling Nvidia is cutting into the overclock headroom for extra profit, but I really hope I am wrong.


 

 

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OK... so a Base clock of 1008MHz, with turbo about 1100MHz.
I get the feeling Nvidia is cutting into the overclock headroom for extra profit, but I really hope I am wrong.

Funny. I said the same thing, and then I got run over by a bunch of people that disagreed with me, most of which had nvidia cards in their main rigs. Oh the irony if I was actually right. We'll know shortly. rolleyes.gif


I want to see a GTX 680 lightning with a "power core" that allows the card to be pushed under extreme cooling to ungodly high clock speeds. That would definitely settle the score.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1232557/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-kepler-2gb-reference-card-video-card-tt-tweak-town-official-review/0_50#post_16776824

Tweaktown just posted their review. GTX 680 wins easily over the 7970 in heaven. Sorry pioneer but I fear you are wrong, you might want to grab that 680 afterall. tongue.gif
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