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If Dell or HP decided to bail their scaler and stupid amount of inputs and make a model without obscene input lag I'd pay their prices for it but they don't

The HP ZR2740W has no proper scaler, as low as input lag as any of these korean models and doesn't have too many inputs. Not all western models suffer from these, although many do. (not to say that the multitude of inputs would be an issue on its own). The ZR2740W happens to be one model that does not suffer from these issues. Thus what you just said does not make sense. tongue.gif
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If they bailed out on the crappy LG AG coating I'd happily buy the Dell U27... rolleyes.gif
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The HP ZR2740W has no proper scaler, as low as input lag as any of these korean models and doesn't have too many inputs. Not all western models suffer from these, although many do. (not to say that the multitude of inputs would be an issue on its own). The ZR2740W happens to be one model that does not suffer from these issues. Thus what you just said does not make sense. tongue.gif

Yup I certainly look foolish now haha. Thanks for pointing that out, will have to give it a look in. I'm guessing that input lag + pixel response time is going to be heaps more due to the 12ms GTG on the HP. I'm assuming the HP doesn't use RTC or all manufacturer listed response times could just be BS I guess. It also makes a half truth out of my "not as a cheaper option" comment. I'd be glad to pay the sub $700 it is the in the US or even if it was the same around $700 the Dell U2711 is here but at $900 - $1000 from a trustworthy reseller and $1050 from HP themselves in Australia that's a little steep, really getting over being mercilously fisted by distributors price gouging here. I'm also having a look at the Hazros, anyone know what panel grade they use?
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Yup I certainly look foolish now haha. Thanks for pointing that out, will have to give it a look in. I'm guessing that input lag + pixel response time is going to be heaps more due to the 12ms GTG on the HP. I'm assuming the HP doesn't use RTC or all manufacturer listed response times could just be BS I guess. It also makes a half truth out of my "not as a cheaper option" comment. I'd be glad to pay the sub $700 it is the in the US or even if it was the same around $700 the Dell U2711 is here but at $900 - $1000 from a trustworthy reseller and $1050 from HP themselves in Australia that's a little steep, really getting over being mercilously fisted by distributors price gouging here. I'm also having a look at the Hazros, anyone know what panel grade they use?

27" Hazro?

Don't bother. CS and QC is nonexistent with them. Just check the huge thread on the moniter at overclockers uk forums.
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27" Hazro?
Don't bother. CS and QC is nonexistent with them. Just check the huge thread on the moniter at overclockers uk forums.

Cheers for the super speedy reply. Looks like it's still LED-Ps for me then. It'd be sweet if they put a height adjustable stand but no pivot on the LED or put that black/white base on the LED-P because I think it looks dope. Adjustable height is a must though because It'll be next to an as of yet undecided 120hz monitor and I'd like to keep the heights as close as possible or It'll eat away at me.
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^^^^
can just use books to adjust ur height xD
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Most monitors only have a brightness setting which I'm pretty sure changes the brightness, black level and back-light all at the same time. Lowering the brightness can also effect the gamma and colour temperature as well.
Lowering the brightness on the 2720MDP affected the brightness, black level and slightly affected the gamma when lowering it.
Yes, in most of the monitors Brightness in OSD adjusts the black level (by changing levels of backlight). The contrast level remains at a constant level with decreasing brightness. But in some monitors Brightness in OSD change not the backlight level, but only brightness of white point (backlight continues to work at maximum level). In this case, the contrast level will be greatly reduced with reducing the brightness. Sometimes the monitor has two separate settings - Brightness and Backlight (for example, Hazro and earlier samples of Crossover 2720MDP). But the last 2720MDP buyers say they have no option in the OSD to adjust the backlight. Only Brightness setting. What is it - Crossover's engineers mistakenly forgotten about adjusting the backlight in the new firmware? Or Brightness setting is now responsible for adjusting backlight?
Maybe someone from the owners of the new 2720MDP (without Backlight setting in OSD) has a calibration equipment and can measure the change of contrast level with a decrease in brightness?
post #1328 of 6485
Thinking about ordering 4 of Led-Ps for when I do my total system overhaul. Anyone know where I can find a good stand that has 3 monitors on the bottom and 1 on the top?
post #1329 of 6485
Hi all, been reading through the thread slowly and kinda jumping in and out of random pages.. 134 is a bit much to do in one go so apologies if some of my questions have already been covered

I've settled on the crossover 27Q or the one with the multiple display connections (27M or 2720MDP.. im not entirely sure of the differences between these two)

i read a few pages back that some people were having problems with flickering whiteness on their 27Q's.. is this something I should be mindful of when I'm ordering? was it a bad batch that might have been sold/recalled by now or should I maybe think about getting a different brand or waiting a couple of weeks

I don't play many fast paced fps so i'm not terribly worried about input lag, I do play a fair bit of starcraft 2 though and I'm wondering how this will work on a 27 inch screen. On another site I saw someone with a Dell u2711 was able to drop down to a 1920x1080 res scaled 1:1 in the middle of their screen and it left black bars along the sides. Not exactly pretty but it would do the job nicely for a few hours scII. I've asked on that website but no one knows so I'll ask here, does the crossover 27M/DP have this feature as well? I don't think it does from what I've seen googling but really so much of this stuff is greek to me I might have seen someone mention it and not realised what they were talking about.



and last question.. not technical at all. I've seen a few different shops on ebay selling the two of the same monitor but often with 30-40$ difference in price. Each time I've seen it i've read the product page, tried to find differences that would explain the price difference but every time the specifications and offers/whatever are the same. Any idea what this is about? I know it could be any number of a hundred reasons related to the shop itself but I thought maybe there's some general reason for it that I just haven't discovered.

thanks all, gona go back to reading the rest of the thread now smile.gif
post #1330 of 6485
I can't answer that for you, about the flickering. I am sending mine back, and AW are definitely aware of the issue now. I've asked them if they've found out any more information about it, and we'll see on Monday. They're a good company though, so rest assured I'm not worried.

For the shops question, it's just sellers trying to out-do each other. Generally, the more expensive vendors will have better return policies should anything go wrong (AW, for example)
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