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Just search Amazon for "Achieva monitor" and you'll find it.

Wonder if they'll appear on amazon UK biggrin.gif
post #1372 of 6483
Just received mine from BCC. I'm using the DP to dual DVI active adapter on my Llano system (A6-3500 + Asus F1A75-I deluxe with integrated HD6530D graphics).

Here's what I posted on another forum:

As promised, pictures:

A sheet of postage paper over the parcel: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Inside the parcel; plenty of foam padding: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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White background check for stuck/dead pixels: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Black background check for stuck/dead pixels: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Setup and running: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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The back: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Stand taken off: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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VESA desk mount arm on: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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On my desk now: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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League of Legends on 1440p: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Notes:
- Packaging: If you order the Crossover, you definitely won't be needing any bubble wrap over the package as BCC has added a lot of foam inside, so you don't have to worry even if the box is punctured.
- Power adapter runs warm but not hot, similar to my power adapter for my PicoPSU. Haven't measured power consumption but I can if someone is really interested but these aren't the most efficient monitors, I think it was something between 50-100W.
- Build quality: No defects on mine, the whole thing seems to be made from metal, even the bezel! I thought the bezel would be plastic but I was proven wrong. The white paint on the back scratches off really easily though as when I was taking out the VESA stand screws it scratched the paint a little.
- Stand: It's better than the Achieva Shimian, but not by much. It does seem to weight a little more and it's even mounted in the VESA mounting holes so the monitor shakes less than the Achieva Shimian, but it does still shake.
- Image/defects: There are no major defects with the image, but it does seem more a bit more yellow than it is white. No dead/stuck pixels or flickering issues at all but there is what seems to be a mark in the lower bottom right hand corner if I look at the screen from the top. It's like there's a pressure mark on the screen but I'm not sure how to take a picture of it, I've tried all that I thought of. It's not really noticeable at all unless I put a whole white screen on and look at it roughly perpendicular from the top; quite weird but I'll accept that as the only defect and leave it there. I think a stuck/dead pixel would bother me more than that.
- Gaming: I don't play any FPS games so I can't comment on lag. I can tell you that I used to play LoL with the lowest shadow settings with about 50-60fps on 1080p but on 1440p, even with shadows off, the game runs on about 40fps.
- Setup: I didn't have to play around with anything, it was literally plug and play for me this time. I simply plugged in the dual link DVI cable into my DP to dual link DVI adapter and turned on my PC and it loaded up at 1440p (Windows 8).

If there are any other questions feel free to ask.

And once again mods, if you feel this belongs in "Monitor" or "Hardware", feel free to move it. Or I could repost this post there?

EDIT: Forgot to add the price; It's listed on eBay for $359.99 but I made an offer of $349.99 and it was accepted. I had to pay a total of £10.79 to DHL but they didn't send an invoice or anything so I can't actually see what I paid for VAT and what I paid for admin/handling charges. It seems the price has now gone up to $389.99.

EDIT2: To reduce the yellow levels, I reduced red and green as that forms yellow AFAIK (in RGB colours), seems to have done the trick but I think there's a bit of a yellow tint near the bottom of my screen, it's a bit hard to tell though because if I sit up a bit then the top looks the same as the bottom in terms of whiteness/yellowness. I think the way I've set the monitor up should be optimal though.

If you do order just remember that these aren't the top quality A+ or whatever panels, there's going to be some form of defect or another I guess. I'll take it that the defect with mine is the slight pressure mark and yellow tinting near the bottom.
Edited by Dabb - 6/27/12 at 11:16am
    
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VESA desk mount arm on: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Ohhh a matching white VESA mount. Could you link me to where you bought that?
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Ohhh a matching white VESA mount. Could you link me to where you bought that?

Unfortunately I'm from the UK but it's called "CMD WHITE Vision Flat Screen LCD Monitor Arm Desk Clamp". I bought it from an eBay seller and he was the only one who sold it.
    
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Ugh. So an update for people that might want to know, from Quebec, we're pretty much screwed out of every extra warranty option I could think of. Credit card warranty needs a written Canadian warranty(there's none included according to AW himself), SquareTrade doesn't work in Quebec, and pretty much every other warranty companies require the same as my CC. So if I do take the plunge, it's only warrantied for one year... Not so sure I want to buy three anymore. I think I'll just get one. If it breaks within a year so be it, but if any or all three of them were to pop in a year I'm not sure I'd be too pleased.

Not too sure about what I want to do.
    
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Ugh. So an update for people that might want to know, from Quebec, we're pretty much screwed out of every extra warranty option I could think of. Credit card warranty needs a written Canadian warranty(there's none included according to AW himself), SquareTrade doesn't work in Quebec, and pretty much every other warranty companies require the same as my CC. So if I do take the plunge, it's only warrantied for one year... Not so sure I want to buy three anymore. I think I'll just get one. If it breaks within a year so be it, but if any or all three of them were to pop in a year I'm not sure I'd be too pleased.
Not too sure about what I want to do.

Russian roulette anyone?

IMO it's too much money to gamble w/. But I'm a college student, so...
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I received my "pixel perfect" CrossOver from AccessoriesWhole and I am blown away by the quality of the monitor! No dead pixels, backlight bleed, perfect color!. It feel that it was worth the extra hundred to go with the higher quality version.

I definitely recommend AW as a seller. The monitor arrived VERY quickly, was packed well and AW provided excellent customer service and was very quick replies to all of my messages.

After using my monitor for a few days, I went down to the AppleStore to compare against the 27" Apple Cinema Display. As far as I can tell...identical in picture quality. That said, I am now confused as to how these "pixel perfect" monitors are still considered to be "reject" LG panels that Apple did not want...isn't that the whole premise of why these Korean monitors exist in the 1st place? From AW's ebay listing "Sole 100% perfect pixel panel achieved and produced from 50 out of 1500 (about 3% of its production) panels." If there's no issues with dead/stuck pixels, does that mean that there is still something wrong with the "pixel perfect" monitors...something maybe that I can't identify without the proper tools?

Anyways, very happy with my monitor, but was just curious if anyone had any insight on what could still be potentially wrong with my monitor.
post #1378 of 6483
Forgot to ask....does anyone know the sugar cube trick will work to remove the Crossover logo?

http://lifehacker.com/244294/macgyver-tip--de+logo-your-cell-phone-with-a-sugar-cube
post #1379 of 6483
Ahhhhhh

Nobody knows what the panel grading system means. The best guess is how close the calibrate to 6500k which is why the big players would want them. Based on empirical evidence, there is nothing to suggest they have no faults... because they DO.

Now, do you notice the flickering issue that was discussed a while ago?
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I received my "pixel perfect" CrossOver from AccessoriesWhole and I am blown away by the quality of the monitor! No dead pixels, backlight bleed, perfect color!. It feel that it was worth the extra hundred to go with the higher quality version.
I definitely recommend AW as a seller. The monitor arrived VERY quickly, was packed well and AW provided excellent customer service and was very quick replies to all of my messages.
After using my monitor for a few days, I went down to the AppleStore to compare against the 27" Apple Cinema Display. As far as I can tell...identical in picture quality. That said, I am now confused as to how these "pixel perfect" monitors are still considered to be "reject" LG panels that Apple did not want...isn't that the whole premise of why these Korean monitors exist in the 1st place? From AW's ebay listing "Sole 100% perfect pixel panel achieved and produced from 50 out of 1500 (about 3% of its production) panels." If there's no issues with dead/stuck pixels, does that mean that there is still something wrong with the "pixel perfect" monitors...something maybe that I can't identify without the proper tools?
Anyways, very happy with my monitor, but was just curious if anyone had any insight on what could still be potentially wrong with my monitor.

My thoughts also. What probably happens is that there is a statistical analyses by batch and when a batch is rejected, not all of the panels are substandard for the A+ rating. Also explains the odd bad Apple, HP, etc monitor. I purchased a pixel Perfect ShiMian Lite and it appears superb.
Edited by jsmoother2012 - 6/28/12 at 5:28pm
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