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Has anyone actually contacted accessorieswhole before about warranty outside of the first week or so? I knew what I was getting in to when I got one of these monitors, I figured if it works sweet I save $500 if It doesn't I'm out $500. Fair gamble. I got my monitor about a month a go and did a quick pixel test but didn't start really using it until about 2 weeks ago due to waiting for the rest of my build. Once I'd started using It I noticed some uniformity issues. If my panel was completely yellow tinted It'd be sweet I'd just calibrate the white temperature but the patches of yellow it has aren't really manageable. Since It's been a month I'm under the impression that I would have to cover shipping if I wanted to do anything about it. From Australia that's just not really worth it especially with the potential risks of damage in transport, getting another lame panel etc.

I'm not having a whinge, as I said I knew what I was getting into and I'm fine with buying a locally sourced HP or LG IPS monitor and just binning or keeping the crossover as a spare monitor as the time and money spent gambling on a replacement seems ill placed. I was just curious about whether anyone had run a warranty claim after the first month or so and how it went for them.
Edited by Ftruck - 8/19/12 at 8:16pm
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From Australia that's just not really worth it especially with the potential risks of damage in transport, getting another lame panel etc.

Nice to see a fellow Aussie in the forums! I'm just wondering what was the quote you got to ship it back to Korea?

Also planning on buying from them, want to consider all the risks.

Thanks!
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Nice to see a fellow Aussie in the forums! I'm just wondering what was the quote you got to ship it back to Korea?
Also planning on buying from them, want to consider all the risks.
Thanks!

Just did a quick postal quote with auspost, Fedex and DHL.

Auspost - Cheapest was $178
Fedex - Cheapest was $353
DHL - Cheapest was $504.63

As I said, not worth returning. These are strictly disposable monitors. It was worth the gamble for me because It had the potential to tick all the boxes, they're IPS panels with good response time, little to no input lag and no AG coatings but I'm not sure if I'm willing to roll the dice on another one. The HP and LG 30" monitors are almost perfect -16:10, little to no input lag, good response times, It's just that god damn AG coating that ruins it since it will be in a dark room. I think I'd rather deal with AG coating than yellow splotches though.
Edited by Ftruck - 8/19/12 at 9:02pm
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As I said, not worth returning. These are strictly disposable monitors.

Thanks for that. Now I'm not even sure I want to get one... Provided that pixel-perfect version of 2720MDP is ~$550, and by adding $150-$200 I could get myself either Dell U2711 (I know, anti-glare...) or Samsung S27A850 (or maybe something else - didn't really look into that market yet.)

Not too sure it's worth the gamble, plus all the time and hassle to spend chasing the seller/carries/whoever up...
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Thanks for that. Now I'm not even sure I want to get one... Provided that pixel-perfect version of 2720MDP is ~$550, and by adding $150-$200 I could get myself either Dell U2711 (I know, anti-glare...) or Samsung S27A850 (or maybe something else - didn't really look into that market yet.)
Not too sure it's worth the gamble, plus all the time and hassle to spend chasing the seller/carries/whoever up...

No worries buddy. I personally wouldn't go down the Dell or Samsung route. The scaler in them jacks the input lag way up. That's just me though, I have no need for the extra inputs on the Dells and Sammies, you might have a use for them though and the input lag vs extra inputs trade off might be worth it for you.

I'm looking at the HP ZR2740W for around $750 which at this point is looking like a better deal than another Crossover at $500, The LG W3000H for around $1100 and if I was just to say ahh F*%K it the HP ZR30W for around $1400. If you get a good Crossover they're great and you're laughing but if you don't you've got a crappy panel and only saved a few hundred bucks. I guess it comes down to how much of a gambler you are.
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The scaler in them jacks the input lag way up. That's just me though, I have no need for the extra inputs on the Dells and Sammies

It's kind of the only option for me (MBP with DisplayPort), so it's either an external DVI->DP converter or built-in ports, and to be honest I'd prefer the built-in one over the external converter.
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I'm looking at the HP ZR2740W for around $750 which at this point is looking like a better deal than another Crossover at $500, The LG W3000H for around $1100 and if I was just to say ahh F*%K it the HP ZR30W for around $1400. If you get a good Crossover they're great and you're laughing but if you don't you've got a crappy panel and only saved a few hundred bucks. I guess it comes down to how much of a gambler you are.

Wow thanks for these references, will definitely check them out!
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Personally, if I could get any monitor at this point it'd be the Samsung S27B970D. That thing is absolutely gorgeous but the price ($1k) is, alas, ridiculous...
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The Samsung S27A850D has 14ms of input lag while the HP ZR27440w has 5ms since it lacks a scaler. This difference is minimal, only the most sensitive users will notice.

http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-samsung-s27a850d-led-teil7.html#Bildaufbauzeit

http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-hp-zr2740w-teil6.html#Reaktionsverhalten

The Samsung does not use an excessively grainy matte coating unlike the HP.


The Samsung series 8 PLS use the lightest matte coating (semi-glossy) while all matte 24-30" IPS use the graniest matte coating.

The 970D is not overpriced compared to the Dell and HP models since it has perfect out of the box colour accuracy (see TFT Centrals Review), something you can only achieve by spending 250$ on an i1 display pro or spyder 4 elite colorimeter. So add 250$+tax to any domestic display while also keeping in mind that you won't get as good results unless you buy a pricier NEC or Eizo model which use the same grainy matte coatings as the U2711 & ZR27440w.

Add 250$+tax to a CrossOver 2720MDP Pixel Perfect with the Pivot stand (650$) for a 900$-ish total. The 970D has gone on sale recently for 1000$ and it comes with a 90% screen uniformity guarantee. The Samsung 970D is a better deal since it's risk free & will have better out of the box colours than a calibrated CrossOver.

The Samsung PLS displays also have lower input lag than most of the mutli-input IPS panels. Prad measured 19ms of input lag on the Achieva multi and most other high res IPS panels with extra inputs+scalers.

Some one on [H]ard forum used the SMT Tool 2.0 (2nd most accurate tool next to using an oscilloscope which currently only PRAD.de does) to measure around 18ms on the Yamakasi Multi, and PRAD.de got a similar value with an oscilloscope on the 30" Yamakasi which has a scaler.

I have the CrossOver 2720MDP and it has the same input lag (measured with the SMT Tool 2.0) as my S27A850D, occasionally it was 1-2ms faster.

I bought my 2720MDP when they were first released on ebay and the Samsung 970D still isn't available in Canada, which is why I don't have one.

Edited by MenacingTuba - 8/20/12 at 7:30am
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Hey Guys,

I am considering buying the 27Q pivot and I've been researching for a few weeks now on which seller / brand is the best. I came to the conclusion that the catleap will never come close to the stand that crossover provides for only an extra $50.

I have just read all the pages of this thread among a few others, and I had one question I didn't seem to have the answer for. Will the crossover 27Q LED-P be able to run smoothly on my nividia GTX260 ?
On ebay it lists that the recommended GPU memory be 1gb but the 260 only has about 890mb. The card does come loaded with dual link ports so i'm going to say it is compatible and it will work.

On a side note I love what you guys are doing here and I also have an account on the Australian overclock tongue.gif
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Doubt a GTX 260 will really be able to push 2560 x 1440 honestly....
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