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post #311 of 6483
Customs maybe? Sounds like it.

Please update what happens because I am from the Netherlands myself and considering ordering a monitor smile.gif

Thanks.
post #312 of 6483
Ok so I tried to "fix," the colours via the Nvidia Control Panel and it totally screws with the grey scale so I don't really recommend using it. I couldn't achieve 6500k without ending up with a massive green dominance and messing up the greys.

The grey scale deviation average exceeded 21 when using the Nvidia Control Panel adjustments and verifying them with basICColour 5. The maximum deviation is supposed to be <1.5.

I took some pictures of the Immortals blu-ray on my PS3 @720p with the same camera settings

Asus Lights Off
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Crossover Lights Off
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Samsung S27A850d Lights Off
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Since the Samsung has a higher default gamma it exhibits minor black crush. The Asus VG236H is the most accurate, despite being a TN.

I also tried calibrating my Crossover with i1 Match which comes with the i1 display pro and it could not correct the colour temperature to 6500k from 8600k. I always ended up with 5900k=to warm and red/orangish.

The main problem is the blue deviation. Green is perfect according to i1 Match and red is close
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basICColor 5 pics up slightly higher deviations.
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basICColor 5 costs 100 euros and was needed to properly profile the Crossover.
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From Left to Right: Crossover 27Q LED-P, Asus VG236H, Samsung S27A850D
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Over-Exposed to highlight issues
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Crossover
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Asus
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Samsung. The bit on the right is PLS glow, not light bleeding.
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Here is a Video showing the Crossover with before/after calibration.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 4/1/12 at 4:06am
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Ok so I tried to "fix," the colours via the Nvidia Control Panel and it totally screws with the grey scale so I don't really recommend using it. I couldn't achieve 6500k without ending up with a massive green dominance and messing up the greys.
The grey scale deviation average exceeded 21 when using the Nvidia Control Panel adjustments and verifying them with basICColour 5. The maximum deviation is supposed to be <1.5.


Hey, could you tell me how you calibrated it? I definitely want to do this when I receive mine.
post #314 of 6483
Wow, Asus VG236H beats Crossover! Is Asus VG236H that good? If I always look at the center of the screen, will TN and IPS still make a difference?
post #315 of 6483
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Customs maybe? Sounds like it.
Please update what happens because I am from the Netherlands myself and considering ordering a monitor smile.gif
Thanks.


Don't worry, I will smile.gif

I'll post any updates. It's still in customs right now.
post #316 of 6483
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Hey, could you tell me how you calibrated it? I definitely want to do this when I receive mine.

I used this:

http://www.xritephoto.com/ph_product_overview.aspx?region=98&lang=en&id=1454&catid=109&action=overview

You can also buy the cheaper version, the colurmunkie

I use basiCColour 5 which is the profiling software: http://www.basiccolor.de/basiccolor-display-5-en/

The software that comes with the colorimeter (i1 Match) is not that great, and like mentioned above it could not properly calibrate the display.
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Wow, Asus VG236H beats Crossover! Is Asus VG236H that good? If I always look at the center of the screen, will TN and IPS still make a difference?

The Asus is really good for a TN. The main difference comes from the lack of gamma shift and wide viewing angles IPS panels have but they also glow. For straight up gaming a 120hz TN is the way to go. Also the Asus is the most widely reviewed 120hz display and it always comes with accurate colours out of the box. You can read my review here:

http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/gadgetry-electronics-discussion/9014-asus-vg236h-120hz-3d-monitor-review.html
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post #317 of 6483
what is already there ever try this software http://www.entechtaiwan.com/lib/softmccs.shtm
This software can change setting color/color temperature thumb.gif
I do not know whether this compatible for crossover LCD
i try for HP 24" its working
post #318 of 6483
I'm looking into getting a monitor calibration tool but I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions for a decently priced unit that will work well?
post #319 of 6483
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Originally Posted by MenacingTuba View Post

I used this:
http://www.xritephoto.com/ph_product_overview.aspx?region=98&lang=en&id=1454&catid=109&action=overview
You can also buy the cheaper version, the colurmunkie
I use basiCColour 5 which is the profiling software: http://www.basiccolor.de/basiccolor-display-5-en/
The software that comes with the colorimeter (i1 Match) is not that great, and like mentioned above it could not properly calibrate the display.
The Asus is really good for a TN. The main difference comes from the lack of gamma shift and wide viewing angles IPS panels have but they also glow. For straight up gaming a 120hz TN is the way to go. Also the Asus is the most widely reviewed 120hz display and it always comes with accurate colours out of the box. You can read my review here:
http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/gadgetry-electronics-discussion/9014-asus-vg236h-120hz-3d-monitor-review.html



There are plenty of good quality TN panels like the Asus might be, but it's 1080p. One of the PRIMARY reasons for the the excitement over these monitors is 2560x1440p resolutions. And there, the TN's inferior vertical viewing angles become a problem.

If all people were worried about was having the best possible color fidelity, then a less expensive tn could do, but if you want higher res, you kind of NEED the ips panels now unless they started making TN's that don't exhibit the color/brightness shifts with vertical viewing angles.


Given that focus, what do you think people would prefer?

A. 2560x1440p ips panel with near perfect color for 800 dollars plus?
B. 1080p TN panel with near perfect color for sub 300?
C. 2560x1440p ips panel with slightly shifted color for less than 400 dollars?

for many people, the answer is C C C C C C C C C C CC CC CC CC CC CCC CC C C C

Why? why would anyone suffer the lack of perfection? They don't care, as long as it's not crazy off and looks clear and crisp and stunning (which it does, your video, flaws and all show the monitor to look amazing to the eye) people will like it.

C is the better option unless you don't mind dropping near 1k for a screen, and if you don't mind that, then have it all.
post #320 of 6483
I'll put it next to some of my other monitors & televisions and calibrate it as good as my eyes and the catalyst control center will let me.
I'm not paying another hundred+ euros for a colorimeter, if I would do that I might as well wait a while longer and get the u2711 for 550 euros.
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