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No overheating issues reported so far.

Eh I'm getting more confused.

Was about to order from green-sum but he has a warning about certain models and all the ones I was looking at are on it.

Kinda making me want to just order the cheapest IPS w/ pixel prefect.

Question for people, do you guys think the sellers bin the monitors (those who "test" them)? Especially those who offer pixel prefect.
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Eh I'm getting more confused.
Was about to order from green-sum but he has a warning about certain models and all the ones I was looking at are on it.
Kinda making me want to just order the cheapest IPS w/ pixel prefect.
Question for people, do you guys think the sellers bin the monitors (those who "test" them)? Especially those who offer pixel prefect.

What do you mean? Pixel perfect guarantee basically selects a monitor with no dead pixels. If they find one with dead pixels, they will most likely dispose of them.
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New CrossOver 27Q owner here. (non-PP version, 1 dead pixel in the bottom right, not even visible from my chair! very happy!)

I currently use a 144hz Asus 27" 1080p for gaming and my CrossOver 27Q for everything else. The CrossOver feels perfect, crisp and responsive on the desktop, browsing the web, and in other non-gaming activities.

I was curious what gaming would be like on the CrossOver, so I tried it out. Running BLOPS2 at 150+ FPS felt reaaaaally sluggish. I figured it was just the shock of returning to 60hz from 144, so I switched the Asus to 60hz mode for comparison. 1440p was still extremely sluggish, but my frame rate never dipped below 100. I switched the CrossOver to 1080p to compare the same resolution, refresh rate, and fps to narrow down the issue. It still felt very sluggish, but I have no quantificable way (hz/ms/fps) to describe what's happening.

Is this input lag? I can't detect any input lag when moving the mouse around between the two monitors at 60hz. I don't have the multi-input model, so I wouldn't expect input lag to be an issue given the benchmarks i've seen in this thread.

Is this "ghosting"? I've never experienced ghosting before, so i'm not sure what to look for. I've seen pictures depict ghosting, but while the game is in motion it's tough to tell.

Any ideas?
Edited by Talyen42 - 11/28/12 at 10:54am
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Good day!
I bought the monitor Crossover 27Q LED-P. In Windows 8 works fine.
But the other operating system is OSX 10.8.2. When the OSX kernel panic occurs. Has anyone faced a similar problem?

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-M PRO
Video: AMD Sapphire HD6850

P.S. With monitor acer v243hq works fine.
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Hey guys, brought my personal review on the CrossOver to OCN forums instead of it being exclusively on Evga.
Here it is: http://www.overclock.net/t/1332252/review-crossover-led-p-2560x1440p-monitors

It should be able to answer any questions you may have when buying or preparing to buy these Korean Monitors. I will also be answering anything on that thread as well as here. Enjoy!
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New CrossOver 27Q owner here. (non-PP version, 1 dead pixel in the bottom right, not even visible from my chair! very happy!)
I currently use a 144hz Asus 27" 1080p for gaming and my CrossOver 27Q for everything else. The CrossOver feels perfect, crisp and responsive on the desktop, browsing the web, and in other non-gaming activities.
I was curious what gaming would be like on the CrossOver, so I tried it out. Running BLOPS2 at 150+ FPS felt reaaaaally sluggish. I figured it was just the shock of returning to 60hz from 144, so I switched the Asus to 60hz mode for comparison. 1440p was still extremely sluggish, but my frame rate never dipped below 100. I switched the CrossOver to 1080p to compare the same resolution, refresh rate, and fps to narrow down the issue. It still felt very sluggish, but I have no quantificable way (hz/ms/fps) to describe what's happening.
Is this input lag? I can't detect any input lag when moving the mouse around between the two monitors at 60hz. I don't have the multi-input model, so I wouldn't expect input lag to be an issue given the benchmarks i've seen in this thread.
Is this "ghosting"? I've never experienced ghosting before, so i'm not sure what to look for. I've seen pictures depict ghosting, but while the game is in motion it's tough to tell.
Any ideas?

I'd probably recommend posting your own topic for this, but I'll give it a shot... So you've tested both the Asus and the Crossover at 1080p and 60hz, and the Crossover still feels "sluggish" compared?

Some things to narrow down what "sluggish" means: Try capping FPS at 30. Does it feel more "sluggish", or just laggy due to the low framerate? I'd also recommend running the Crossover at its native 2560x1440 in all tests possible; since these screens don't have scalers, your video card will have to scale the 1080p image up to 2560x1440 in order for the crossover to display it. This inserts a third factor that's probably worse then a resolution difference.

I don't specifically know any tests for input lag... If I was trying myself I'd probably drag the view quickly and stop the mouse, then see if I could notice a lag behind either starting or stopping... this type of test would be subject to accidental bias though... if you think the crossover is lagging, you might be able to start seeing lag that isn't really there.
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Alright I can officially join the club! My CrossOver arrived today but I didn't get a chance to mess with it until after class.

I purchased it from dream-seller on Nov. 23rd, and it got to me on Nov. 28th. Not the fastest but not so slow either =).
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Box handles were a bit ripped, but that's reasonable. Overall the box was in good condition.


Good amount of padding and foam





I believe this is the Green PCB, correct me if I'm wrong.




Power supply that came with it.


Can anyone tell me what this is? It only appears when it's all black, but it's like a blue glow. Like something is leaking?


I think it's a bit of backlight bleed, or just some moderate glow. It doesn't bother me much so I'm good.




These two pictures are of a spec of dust I think. or maybe a cluster of bad pixels. I can't tell because it's a bit fuzzy. The other dead pixel I had was too hard to get a picture of. Honestly these don't bother me too much to send it back to Korea at this point.



Some MilkDrops action. The monitor next to is is a Samsung SyncMaster P2770, I'm enjoying the CrossOver more though due to the sheer amount of real-estate. The Samsung is also very warm in it's colors and it's been bothering me for some time now.

All in all I'm pretty happy with my purchase. I'm a little bummed out that I had a few defects, but I can't complain much for what I bought it for. I'm probably going to buy from a different seller next time though and see how that goes.
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Hi,
This is Nancy from Accessorieswhole.

About 27 inch monitors from CrossOver,
We expect to have last batch of 27 inch monitors soon due to shortage of IPS panel increased its panel price insanely.
CrossOver managed to procure over 1,000 panels and it is on process to produce more 27 inch monitors.
Both manufacturer and sellers are ready to sell 30 inch monitors which has Q5 panels; not IPS panel with LED.

I'm not so sure that I should be so honest to announce all matters with buyers/potential buyers but i'm trying to be frank with you.

As some of OCN members noticed about our seasons sale of newly launched 30Q5 PRO and 30Q5 PRO Black monitors,
These monitors will be the best alternative models for 27Q LED, 27Q LED-P monitors.
Because, 30Q5 models also do not have AD board, which you know, it can be only connected with compatible graphic card (Not motherboard) support DVI-D Dual link, since 30Q5 models only have one display port; DVI-D.

Most of Korea manufactured monitors without AD boards shall not be so compatible with laptop and any of Mac series.
So, it is very crucial to check your graphic card before purchase.

For now, it will be the first and may be the last chance to get 30Q5 models at discounted price due to that we only offer this promotion for only last for limited quantity.
Once we get last batch of 27 inch monitors and sold out, I expect that 30Q5 model price will increased by its supply and demand.

Yamakasi has changed their return policy, so Yamakasi monitors does not include pixel perfect versions, and will not cover the defective pixel for return/refund.
Yamakasi has been announced that only over 5 bright pixels (Not including dead,sub or stuck pixels) can be considered for defective pixels.

Acheiva has suffered from shortage of IPS panel to continue their production for 27 inch monitors.
Acheiva is considering to continue Achieva LITE monitor production only, but it is not confirmed and announced publicly.

Still, I receive many questions and enquiries about backlight bleed, due to IPS panel characteristics, IPS panel has backlight bleed.
So, please mind this before you proceed your purchase.

Hopefully, by next week, more of 27 inch monitors will be on sales but not in discounted price, maintain its price near $400.

I recently received request of selling green PCB boards, but Accessorieswhole only provide Green PCB, power adapter and necessary supplies to buyers who purchased their monitors from Accessorieswhole.
Because buyers from AW deserve better services for what they paid for. ( you know, AW sales price is higher than other sellers to make service and product quality differences).
I'm sorry to get enquiries from, but it will be unfair to provide same services to others.
Please contact the seller who you've purchased your monitor from. I shall keep PCB, power adapter and cables for my clients.

Sincerely appreciate all concerns, great patience and kind cooperation with AW.
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What do you mean? Pixel perfect guarantee basically selects a monitor with no dead pixels. If they find one with dead pixels, they will most likely dispose of them.

So no binning while testing the monitors?

While testing a non PP monitor, if they ran into one that is will they send it out or save it for somebody who'll pay PP prices?

Been looking for truth worthy sellers who don't sell PP versions since I'm assuming they just pick it up from the warehouse and ship it out to you.

Thanks, guess I needed to revise my question.
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What do you mean? Pixel perfect guarantee basically selects a monitor with no dead pixels. If they find one with dead pixels, they will most likely dispose of them.

I guarantee that they don't do this. If they find one that isn't perfect pixel, they sell it. As a monitor without prefect pixel.
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