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most of the people who have had problems, didn't buy them from the best seller and if they did. they were promptly taken care of with receiving new monitors or pcbs. Only issue I had was one of the power supplies died and AW shipped me a new one in a day and half just like them monitors for free.

That's strange. I sent AW an email five days ago and I have yet to hear back. Maybe they're still on vacation?
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OK On another note, did anyone try the 30Q5 pro? These ones are pleasing to my eyes... they are doing sweet prices on those now. For the moment I've read nothing but people saying they're not interested in these because they're not LED rolleyes.gif
Unless I missed something it's not that big of a deal. Or is it? What's the problem? it's still an IPS panel, if they're good I'd rather take one of those, 30" 2560x1600... and 16/10 (THAT'S great).... Frankly, on the paper I prefer these models, I just don't see any feedback... Anyone?

Afaik the 30s are all matte, and after enjoying glossy I wouldn't ever go matte again..

(Also, my overclocked 6950 Toxic would be too taxed going 4K.. already having her hands full with 1440 wink.gif )
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I don't thing pixel response times+input lag should be added since it just causes confusion, people end up thinking the combined value=total input lag. A display can have 1ms of input lag and 44ms pixel response times for a total of 45ms which may lead people to think it is super laggy when in reality it would feel super responsive but have horrible ghosting.

All of the Korean displays are a dice roll. The CrossOver 27Q LED-P's where the first to show large variances (extreme blue tint and very low contrast), can't say if there are such extreme variances among the other brands but it is still common for low-mid range IPS to vary largely. The single input models have negligible input lag while the others have around 1 frame which is fine for all but enthusiast gamers.

Avoid the 30" models, they are wide gamut, which you don't need and all 30" displays use a very grainy matte coating and have poor black levels too. If you want a 30" save up another 3-400$ for the Dell U3014 which should come out next spring and will blow ALL of the current 30" displays out of the water.

700$ would be better spent on a display with a warranty like the Dell U2713HM, Asus PB278Q or Samsung S27A850D, all of which are not grainy, have better black levels, better colors for your uses and less ghosting too.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 1/1/13 at 12:58pm
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Afaik the 30s are all matte, and after enjoying glossy I wouldn't ever go matte again..
(Also, my overclocked 6950 Toxic would be too taxed going 4K.. already having her hands full with 1440 wink.gif )

I prefer matte to glossy in fact smile.gif
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Thanks for the info on the input lag / repsonse time etc. Useful indeed.
Why avoid the 30" models?
> I "don't need wide gamut", okay maybe I don't need it, but it shouldn't hurt?
> I actually prefer matte coating over glossy displays.
> As for saving for another 30", I can forget about it, I live in France, prices here are crazy, a Dell one is 250 / 300% more expensive.
Between the Asus PB278Q or Samsung S27A850D I'd choose the Samsung as it had a very good review on prad.de that I know thanks to you, and it's by far the cheapest 1440p available here in France.
But people have told me the Samsung would be inferior to the Crossover because of the PLS technology? I don't know it, I heard it's inferior to IPS, but how? If it's still better than TN it's all good, I'm already very satified with my LG TN monitor so anything better will be noticeable.

On the subject of 30" Korean monitors, I responded to you in another thread dedicated to these 30", when you have the time to check it out... Thanks again.
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PLS>IPS, easily. While some IPS do offer better contrast (1200:1 IPS vs 1000:1 PLS) PLS panels are far more consistent in terms of out-of-the box colors while the same IPS monitors will be all over the place and PLS don't have burn-in or strong tinting issues unlike IPS. Other wise IPS & PLS are pretty much the same.

Wide Gamut displays are bad for non-work related uses

Wide Gamut Left vs. sRGB

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now image what it does to some ones face...sun burns for everyone! If you want a matte display get a 27." This [H] user figured us grainy AG haters were exaggerating and decided it would be best to see a 30" for himself.

sRGB vs Wide gamut

900x900px-LL-49dac672_ccfl_compare.jpeg
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That's strange. I sent AW an email five days ago and I have yet to hear back. Maybe they're still on vacation?
it's about time for an ebay dispute. i also doubt i'll hear anything back but a request to ship the monitor at my own expense. mr tuba is right, unfortunately.
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That's strange. I sent AW an email five days ago and I have yet to hear back. Maybe they're still on vacation?

it is still new years day in most of the world...
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rather than wide gamut, which you wouldn't notice in any but certain workloads, it's the florescent backlight that may be a bit 'dull' compared to the led, at least in your shots, though i hear you re AG coating.for me, after experiencing just a glimpse of glossy, i too can't go back to matte. filing a dispute with AW by friday if i don't get a response before then. must be nice to be able to afford a vacation. oh, wait, i just paid for it...lol
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it's tomorrow and another work day in korea, i believe...
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all i hear from forums is that they (the user/purchaser) get stuck with the shipping. haven't read a success story anywhere re seller honoring return shipping. i'm out money i could have spent at least on the microcenter 27" ips. still kicking myself for not going with that model. $30 more because of tax, but having their warranty and rep for making things good, i would have paid $150 more for peace of mind, after this epic failure...

checked my emails with AW since sounds like you haven't attempted a solution... this is what they told me before I bought mine

"Thank you for your interest on Accessorieswhole.

we provide 1 year warranty,
it covers, within 30 days from your purchase, if monitor has defect/default, it may refund/replaced be on us.
After the 30 days from your purchase, since you live in USA, you may pay shipping charge to our warehouse in LA.
From the warehouse in LA to Korea, Korea to your house will be charged on us."


only thing I would have to pay would be shipping to Cali...and from nc thats $25 ups ground -_- big whoop. They pay for it to get to Korea, and ALL the way back to you. so put effort in and contact them and please don't mislead others. In most cases others have found fixes without need to ship the original back.

and anyone buying anything out of country especially electronics there is a risk involved but some sellers really make it easy on you, but it is an inherent risk. by all means if you want to spend hundreds of dollars more on the same monitor in your country go for it. More than enough that have had great success.
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