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post #4401 of 6483
Good day Everyone.

This is Nancy Kim from Accessorieswhole.

I missed Merry christmas and Happy new year greetings to all, forgive me for the late wishes and I have to tell you, I missed OCN members so much smile.gif

So far, I have read up to page 420.

I've seen some frustration upon Korean monitor vs Dell/HP/Apple so on.
Return/repair policy about Korean sellers on Ebay-
and some complaints about me being absence on responde and not made proper action on defective monitors but Thank you for those great buyers who purchased monitor from AW and being representative for me. I had several moment that I wanted to jump in and make full explanations but at the end, it was worth to provide utmost customer service to buyers which it came back to AW as great favor. Sincerely appreciate your kindness to be stand on AW's side and assist others in proper ways. Thank you.

(Personal Note to:
Descadent : Cograts for having a baby. Is it a boy or a girl? Hope to hear a world best news from you soon-.
Cloudz00x : If I'm correct, I'm holding a pixel perfect monitor for you to make a replacement as I promised. So, now you can have a beautiful triple pixel perfect CrossOver monitors as you wanted. So, please contact me at my email as you know. smile.gif )

It's been a long time for me to write a post on OCN.
The Last thing I remember was that AW was trying to get more pixel perfect and standard monitors from CrossOver.

Surely we have stocks of CrossOver now.
Finally have managed to hold on few of pixel perfect monitors. (You have to check our listings carefully because as soon as we do not have stock of PP, we will increase the price up to $999).

For the potential buyers,
please understand that AW provide 1 year warranty as it is on the product description but it does not mean we take your monitor back at our charge in whole year.
The return can be done within 30 days from monitor purchased date and we provide any necessary services to repair monitors after 30 days.
We've been providing power adapter and PCB board at our cost for those who needs and requests but we need to know exact monitor condition to provide supplies.
I kept and keep customer sales history to provide proper services because ebay only show history up to 90 days.
Some of buyers who purchased early to mid in 2012 may have sudden death of monitor which caused from faulty PCB board.
But, we do not want to assume or estimate problem and arrange PCB board because we also get limited quantities of PCB from CrossOver and wanted to provide correct service at once than try this and that.

If you think you received faulty unit, please don't hesitate to contact me.
But, please prepare its diagnosis for us to provide prompt and easy process.
Honestly, I'm dying with loaded messages just telling me " Monitor defective. I need my money back. "
Please understand that I will do my best at my position. Please do your best at your position too.

All I need is that provide me few information when you contact me as below:
1. Graphic card specification (If it is compatible, please try to connect monitor with different monitor to check graphic card functionality)
2. Power adapter status/condition
3. Disconnect all cables and connect cables tightly again. (If you have spare part, please try it)
4. If monitor still shows flickering, DOA, then, provide me picture/video clip.

IF you purchased during May - Sept and monitor suddenly died,
1. Please open up the housing and check PCB board condition for us.
Mostly it has blue PCB and has burned mark. Which we can provide new PCB for replacement.


Please understand that,
We have 2 kinds of monitors
1. Standard monitor
- unboxing, inspected from AW's warehouse before arrange its shipment. It MAY have up to 3 dead/stuck/sub pixels.

2. Pixel Perfect monitor
- unboxing, inspected from AW's warehouse before arrange its shipment.
But, It does not mean we guarantee Perfect monitor without any backlight bleed or bit of yellow tint on bottom of monitor screen.
Beside of perfect pixel quality, other conditions are exactly same as standard monitors.

If you could kindly follow this process, (and help me to get fewer messages to assist) then, I may suggest new year's promotion to my Boss.

Alrighty,
I have 20+ pages to go.

Hope I could read good reviews and happy news from OCN to comfort me.

P.S -> we managed to set our office at LA but failed to launch our online business on Amazon.com.
Currently we only maintained few sales on accessorieswhole-uk.hostedbyamazon.co.uk
It was my fault to lose our sales previliege on Amazon.com by lack of my knowledge on Amazon policy. which is very different compare to Ebay... Oh well.... haha..

Once again, Happy new year and wish you all best!!!
Edited by amazing235 - 1/8/13 at 11:21pm
post #4402 of 6483
Hello al,

There is still one thing that is left unclear to me.

The DVI-D port thing.
As I understand, the video card must have a DVI-D dual link and not a DVI-D Single link. Does this mean that the card must have TWO DVI-D ports?

So far I'm only aware of a difference between DVI-I (analog) and DVI-D (digital).
My 580 cards have two DVI-D and two HDMI, I want to upgrade to GTX 680, I saw that many cards nowadays have one DVI-D, one DVI-I, HDMI and display port.

Is the DVI-D on the 670 / 680 the good one? DVI-D "dual link"? What does "dual link" mean anyway? And for the people running three monitors with one or two 680's, how do you do?

Descadent, I see you have 3 monitors with two 670's. So you only have two DVI-D ports. How do you do to plug the 3 monitors?

PLEASE someone clear that up for me, I need to know before upgrading my GPU and / or buying this monitor.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by DaGoat View Post

Hello al,
There is still one thing that is left unclear to me.
The DVI-D port thing.
As I understand, the video card must have a DVI-D dual link and not a DVI-D Single link. Does this mean that the card must have TWO DVI-D ports?
So far I'm only aware of a difference between DVI-I (analog) and DVI-D (digital).
My 580 cards have two DVI-D and two HDMI, I want to upgrade to GTX 680, I saw that many cards nowadays have one DVI-D, one DVI-I, HDMI and display port.
Is the DVI-D on the 670 / 680 the good one? DVI-D "dual link"? What does "dual link" mean anyway? And for the people running three monitors with one or two 680's, how do you do?
Descadent, I see you have 3 monitors with two 670's. So you only have two DVI-D ports. How do you do to plug the 3 monitors?
PLEASE someone clear that up for me, I need to know before upgrading my GPU and / or buying this monitor.
Thanks.

DVI comes in two flavours of links - single link and dual link.
DVI also comes in 3 flavours of connectors - DVI-D (digital), DVI-A (analogue) and DVI-I (integrated).

DVI-I is the same thing as DVI-D + DVI-A.
Dual link versus single link affects the bandwidth and the physical number of "lanes" available for transmission. Both dual link and single link DVI is a single DVI port, just with a different number of pins. See below:


YOu have a 580 - thus you have 2x dual link DVI ports - and both of which are either DVI-I or DVI-D connections (what you need). The GTX 680 is also a 2x dual link DVI part - one of which is a DVI-I and one of which is DVI-D port. Neither of which will cause you any problems. Ignore DVI-I/DVI-D - there is no functional difference unless you plan on running VGA/d-sub. All you need to know is that you have 2 dual link DVI ports (DL-DVI) on your NVidia cards.
post #4404 of 6483
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Originally Posted by DaGoat View Post

Descadent, I see you have 3 monitors with two 670's. So you only have two DVI-D ports. How do you do to plug the 3 monitors?
PLEASE someone clear that up for me, I need to know before upgrading my GPU and / or buying this monitor.
Thanks.

I have 4 dvi ports, two dl-dvi-d and two dl-dvi-i. two monitors in 1 card, 1 monitor in 2nd card, and when I feel like it the 4th accessory monitor in hdmi.
post #4405 of 6483
Thanks to both of you for your explanations.

+ Rep for you two.

So.... Technically, if one wants to run 3 monitors on a single card, that means he would have to use 2 DVI and 1 HDMI - So to have at least one monitor with an HDMI port?

@ DescadentI find it surprising that you use both DVI-I and DVI-D in your case,. I always heard that DVI-I is not "real" DVI as it's analog. Is it the same quality of display?
post #4406 of 6483
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Originally Posted by DaGoat View Post

Thanks to both of you for your explanations.
+ Rep for you two.
So.... Technically, if one wants to run 3 monitors on a single card, that means he would have to use 2 DVI and 1 HDMI - So to have at least one monitor with an HDMI port?
@ DescadentI find it surprising that you use both DVI-I and DVI-D in your case,. I always heard that DVI-I is not "real" DVI as it's analog. Is it the same quality of display?

for 3 korean monitors and 1 card with nvidia 670 as example. Both dvi to two monitors then you would need a display port to dl-dvi active adapter coming from card to monitor, but don't expect to game at 1440p surround with only 1 card.

dl-dvi-i and dl-dvi-d do the SAME thing. for exception that dvi-i allows you to use single link dvi or dual link dvi. There is no difference between dl-dvi-i and dl-dvi-d when you have a dl-dvi monitor plugged into either port. Exactly as the picture posted above. dl-dvi-i works like regular ole dvi when you have a single link dvi monitor plugged into it too.

all dvi's are digital whether they are dl or sl. the only dvi that is analog is dvi-a
Edited by Descadent - 1/9/13 at 7:39am
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Originally Posted by DaGoat View Post

Thanks to both of you for your explanations.
+ Rep for you two.
So.... Technically, if one wants to run 3 monitors on a single card, that means he would have to use 2 DVI and 1 HDMI - So to have at least one monitor with an HDMI port?
@ DescadentI find it surprising that you use both DVI-I and DVI-D in your case,. I always heard that DVI-I is not "real" DVI as it's analog. Is it the same quality of display?
If you find one monitor that has HDMI 1.4, you can run it that way. I have my doubts as to whether these monitors use HDMI 1.4 though. I know Dell's U2711/U2713hm do not use HDMI 1.4. If I were you, I'd stick to running 1440p displays off of DL-DVI or DisplayPort.
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Originally Posted by amazing235 View Post

Good day Everyone.
This is Nancy Kim from Accessorieswhole.
I missed Merry christmas and Happy new year greetings to all, forgive me for the late wishes and I have to tell you, I missed OCN members so much smile.gif
hi nancy, thanks for checking in wink.gif
thank you so much for your support efforts. my crossover monitor is running beautifully!!!
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DVI comes in two flavours of links - single link and dual link.
DVI also comes in 3 flavours of connectors - DVI-D (digital), DVI-A (analogue) and DVI-I (integrated).
DVI-I is the same thing as DVI-D + DVI-A.
Dual link versus single link affects the bandwidth and the physical number of "lanes" available for transmission. Both dual link and single link DVI is a single DVI port, just with a different number of pins. See below:.

Careful using those images to determine if a port is dual link or not. The video card will always have the full number if pins regardless of the port being single or dual link.
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in cloudz00x's review here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1332252/review-crossover-led-p-2560x1440p-monitors

he recommends using premium cables
Quote:
The DVI-D cable and Power cable that are provided are great but we can drastically improve performance and longevity with a higher copper wire thickness and quality.
I personally chose to increased the AWG count, more copper is better.
All cables were bought from Monoprice.com

6ft 14AWG Power Cord Cable w/ 3 Conductor PC Power Connector Socket (C13/5-15P) - Black
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10228&cs_id=1022801&p_id=5292&seq=1&format=2

6ft 24AWG CL2 Dual Link DVI-D Cable - Black
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10209&cs_id=1020901&p_id=2686&seq=1&format=2

does anybody else have experience changing the cables, and do you see any performance difference?

i'm wondering if these cables are worth ordering
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