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Originally Posted by b0z0 View Post

Only reason I was asking. I went from a BenQ XL2420T(Colors were washed out) to triple 27" ASUS VE278Q's and it had horrible screen tear. So I sold them all, now I'm trying to figure out what I want. I'm curious how CS Go will look at 1440 playing competitive.

I took some screenshots for you although it's surround.




post #4472 of 6483
Another question about this dual-link connector thing.

Most of the card manufacturers propose one DVI-I and one DVI-D, one single link and one dual link. Very often, for nvidia and for Radeon, the Dual-Link port is the DVI-I port. That is to say, the analog port.
But manufacturer specifications give a max. resoluton of 2048x1536 for analog. So how is it possible?
post #4473 of 6483
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Another question about this dual-link connector thing.

Most of the card manufacturers propose one DVI-I and one DVI-D, one single link and one dual link. Very often, for nvidia and for Radeon, the Dual-Link port is the DVI-I port. That is to say, the analog port.
But manufacturer specifications give a max. resoluton of 2048x1536 for analog. So how is it possible?

because analog can do that res. old crts can.

mostly all over nvidia's current cards have dl-dvi-d and dl-dvi-i on the same card. we talked about this 1-3 pages back.
post #4474 of 6483
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Originally Posted by DaGoat View Post

Another question about this dual-link connector thing.

Most of the card manufacturers propose one DVI-I and one DVI-D, one single link and one dual link. Very often, for nvidia and for Radeon, the Dual-Link port is the DVI-I port. That is to say, the analog port.
But manufacturer specifications give a max. resoluton of 2048x1536 for analog. So how is it possible?

The analogue portion of DVI-I is actually independent of the number of DVI links. The single versus dual link nature of DVI is in the digital side of things. Analogue video signals, whether in a dual link or single link DVI situation, still use the same number of pins in either case.
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because analog can do that res. old crts can.

mostly all over nvidia's current cards have dl-dvi-d and dl-dvi-i on the same card. we talked about this 1-3 pages back.

Yeah hopefully I still remember what I talked about 2-3 days ago, I'd be worried otherwise, this is not the same point.

Just checked for nvidia, this is true,but almost all 7970 cards have Single-link on DVI-D and Dual-link on DVI-I.
This gets even more confusing when you consder that it is said that Radeon cards perfrorm better at higher resolutions (it's all over the thread).

So I wonder how is it for Radeon cards owners ?
post #4476 of 6483
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Originally Posted by kevinsbane View Post

The analogue portion of DVI-I is actually independent of the number of DVI links. The single versus dual link nature of DVI is in the digital side of things. Analogue video signals, whether in a dual link or single link DVI situation, still use the same number of pins in either case.

That still doesn't explain how come one can display 1440p with an analogue DVI-I port, as analogue is limited to 2048x1536.
post #4477 of 6483
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That still doesn't explain how come one can display 1440p with an analogue DVI-I port, as analogue is limited to 2048x1536.

what don't you get? dl-dvi-i accepts dual/single link dvi-d for digital with maximum res of 2560x1600 or -a (analog) for 2048x1536. dvi-a is the analog ONLY port. dvi-i or dl-dvi-i accepts both if necessary. it's just legacy support in a sense.
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DVI-I (integrated, combines digital and analog in the same connector; digital may be single- or dual-link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface


why are we even talking about analog anyways? These monitors are dl-dvi digitally connected monitors. They can be plugged into dedicated dl-dvi-d ports or dl-dvi-i ports. end of story thumb.gif

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Yeah hopefully I still remember what I talked about 2-3 days ago, I'd be worried otherwise, this is not the same point.

Just checked for nvidia, this is true,but almost all 7970 cards have Single-link on DVI-D and Dual-link on DVI-I.
This gets even more confusing when you consder that it is said that Radeon cards perfrorm better at higher resolutions (it's all over the thread).

So I wonder how is it for Radeon cards owners ?

not necessary true that radeon out performs in all cases every time(with radeon drivers no thanks plus it costs more to go radeon with these monitors because you must have a dp to dl-dvi adapter for eyefinity in my case, plus the struggle of finding a card that has enough of the correct dvi connections on it), but that is just how amd does their cards or their suppliers choose to do their cards. almost ALL nvidia 6 series cards have dl-dvi-d .. dl-dvi-i, dp, hdmi all on one card. why doesn't amd do it? who knows....makes no sense, but 1440p or 3d monitors are not mainstream enough for gaming (especially for 1440p eyefinity, most people use single link 1080p monitors or dp monitors) to put dl-dvi ports all over their cards I guess. vs. nvidia pushes 3d big time which requires dl-dvi.
Edited by Descadent - 1/15/13 at 2:32pm
post #4478 of 6483
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Originally Posted by DaGoat View Post

That still doesn't explain how come one can display 1440p with an analogue DVI-I port, as analogue is limited to 2048x1536.

The same way that dual link DVI can transfer 2560x1440p@120hz.

There's no reason why it can't go higher. 2048x1536 may be all that Nvidia guarantees, but that doesn't mean it's all it can do.

Edit: Max VGA resolution is 2048×1536px (QXGA) @85 Hz - which is less bandwidth needed than 2560x1440@60hz. I presume it's a legacy connection documentation issue.

Double edit: Reading more carefully, I think Descendant's right - you have the wrong idea. DVI-I isn't an "analogue" port. It's a digital AND analogue port combined.
Edited by kevinsbane - 1/15/13 at 2:28pm
post #4479 of 6483
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Double edit: Reading more carefully, I think Descendant's right - you have the wrong idea. DVI-I isn't an "analogue" port. It's a digital AND analogue port combined.

That's correct- the DVI-I port can transmit a digital DVI signal, or transmit an analog VGA signal. The adapter is just to put the VGA pins into the right spots, it doesn't change the signal in any way. Essentially it's a "combo" port- the card could have a DVI and a VGA port, but to save space they have the VGA signal able to go out of that DVI port. When you are using a DVI display, it acts just like a normal DVI port.
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I just got my 27QD monitor from AW.
I ordered mine just after AW on promotion so I thought it was good chance for me to purchase.
Surely fast shipping, only took a day to receive monitor smile.gif

astonishing screen!!!!
Perfect Perfect Perfect pixel-

I was jumping around and screaming and then checked on Ebay for contact AW about sending praise.
Found out that AW lowered 27QD monitor price even more.
in a day!

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