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i almost bought that one last week Hueys but after reading this thread i went for the model above it "black tune" as it has less potential issues. It just arrived yesterday and its blown me away - so glad i took the risk.

Blacktune is probably the best model crossover makes. Glad to hear you like it.
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I have the crossover 27qw and the display itself is glossy. Its advertised plasma glass decomposition feature was just a sham, but at least the monitor itself isn't! This monitor seems to be a bit more color accurate than the qnix. However, I enjoy the slightly warmer colors of the qnix qx2710's. You can't go wrong with both of them, and I got the multi-input version of this crossover! It's pretty good in build and looks. That silver bezel can be a bit distracting, but since it's not plastic, I can live with that.

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The bezel and the screen of the crossover's. I can't provide photos for reflection yet, but it is glossy. If there are anymore questions let me know, I will probably post a review thread of this monitor after I compare it to the 27q and qnix2710. The multi-input, btw, doesn't feel any less responsive than the monitors with a single dvi-d input. That's my own opinion, however, I probably don't notice the lag as competitive players do.

You can adjust the color settings in your video driver properties. (desktop color settings) Also since you are running win7 there is a built in color calibration. Just do a search in the start menu, calibrate.
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Blacktune is probably the best model crossover makes. Glad to hear you like it.
You can adjust the color settings in your video driver properties. (desktop color settings) Also since you are running win7 there is a built in color calibration. Just do a search in the start menu, calibrate.
Cool, I didn't know that. I will check it out when I figure out the OSD settings.

Btw, does anyone know if it is normal for my game to perform sluggish when I'm in HDMI mode? Changing connections to DVI-D has fixed the issue, but I was wondering the reason for that weird frame drop. I was only playing tekken vs street fighter, and it decided to perform at its worst. Alt-tabbing(or switching) to the desktop and back to the game has fixed the performance, until I lose the match and restart my character selection again.
Edited by vlenbo - 9/28/13 at 10:07am
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Cool, I didn't know that. I will check it out when I figure out the OSD settings.

Btw, does anyone know if it is normal for my game to perform sluggish when I'm in HDMI mode? Changing connections to DVI-D has fixed the issue, but I was wondering the reason for that weird frame drop. I was only playing tekken vs street fighter, and it decided to perform at its worst. Alt-tabbing(or switching) to the desktop and back to the game has fixed the performance, until I lose the match and restart my character selection again.

If you have contrast/color settings programing for osd please use built in controller chip on video board for calibration. I was under the impression you only had pwr on/off and brightness + -

What version of HDMI cable are you using? Does this happen in all of your games or just this game? It has to be version 1.3 or higher and dual link not single. Sounds like you have a old/incompatible hdmi cable. Another question, why are you using hdmi if you can use dvi....is it audio? Both are digital signals no difference besides audio through hdmi and the interface. I would first use a new hdmi cable, don't cheap out. If the new cable doesn't solve the low fps then I would try updating your video driver. Please list the specifications of your video output device. I will get this resolved for you.
Edited by Craigaaa - 9/28/13 at 4:00pm
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If you have contrast/color settings programing for osd please use built in controller chip on video board for calibration. I was under the impression you only had pwr on/off and brightness + -

What version of HDMI cable are you using? Does this happen in all of your games or just this game? It has to be version 1.3 or higher and dual link not single. Sounds like you have a old/incompatible hdmi cable. Another question, why are you using hdmi if you can use dvi....is it audio? Both are digital signals no difference besides audio through hdmi and the interface. I would first use a new hdmi cable, don't cheap out. If the new cable doesn't solve the low fps then I would try updating your video driver. Please list the specifications of your video output device. I will get this resolved for you.

Yup, I do, and will post pictures of it soon enough, a bit busy at the moment.

Apparently, a new hdmi version. Since it only supports resolutions up to 3840,2760 (as my monitor has the opportunity to downsample at that resolution), I would have to assume it is a 1.4a or b. I can't really tell since the product did not state its version. I had to buy it when it mentioned that 4k was supported since I know that the latest hdmi cable (besides 2.0), was supported. I will switch cables with a friend of mine who also has one in hand. I probably didn't seat it in properly either, but i already switched back to dvi.

I used the hdmi cable for two reasons. Its simplicity (inserting a dvi is less tasking than an hdmi imo), and to test its effeciency (I do not have a console or blu-ray player and was curious to see if the hdmi port actually worked). Then I loafed around with the monitor and neglected to switch back until three games slowed me down. I played rogue legacy, and it didn't slow down, but when tekken, Basition (great game), and super mario sunshine on the emulator (awesome color test imo), I found out that the choppyness was due to hdmi. Though I presume that my computer could not run the dolphin emulator very well, so it seems that only bastion and tekken vs street fighter had a rough time.

Also, wanted to test the audio of the monitor, and it sounds like what everyone has been saying. Nothing special and even worse than portable speakers in volume and quality.

The only specifications of the output device was that it could support 4k, 3d, and something that slipped my mind. I believe the brand is this one. http://www.iogear.com/product/GHDC1402P/ Thank you for replying.
post #6115 of 6483
I have Crossover 27Q and it's black when I connect it to MSI Z87 Xpower I/O ports. But I have no problem when it connected to videocard such as 8800GTX or GXT 560.
I use dual link cable in both cases, but when I connect it to motherboard I use HDMI-DVI cable instead of DVI-DVI cable when connect to external card.
Of course I get external card out, when use internal CPU graphics.

As to whole problem, there's some features when 27Q is connected to motherboard:
1. 27Q can display any messages in DOS mode (640x480 8bit) and windows loading animation in this mode. Although, desktop could be displayed as long as you not installing intel HD 4600 drivers and max resolution then is 640x480 8bit too.
2.Neither UEFI MSI bios logo/ BIOS setup can be displayed any means nor windows desktop when you have installed intel HD 4600 drivers, even if you load windows in safe mode or restrict resolution to 640x480.

So, when noting displayed, backlight led blinking as should during windows loading, but screen is dark with black picture (dark as BSOD when you bricked a videocard).
What do you think could it be fix simply or I need to buy a videocard?
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I have the crossover 27qw and the display itself is glossy. Its advertised plasma glass decomposition feature was just a sham, but at least the monitor itself isn't! This monitor seems to be a bit more color accurate than the qnix. However, I enjoy the slightly warmer colors of the qnix qx2710's. You can't go wrong with both of them, and I got the multi-input version of this crossover! It's pretty good in build and looks. That silver bezel can be a bit distracting, but since it's not plastic, I can live with that.

Some pics








The bezel and the screen of the crossover's. I can't provide photos for reflection yet, but it is glossy. If there are anymore questions let me know, I will probably post a review thread of this monitor after I compare it to the 27q and qnix2710. The multi-input, btw, doesn't feel any less responsive than the monitors with a single dvi-d input. That's my own opinion, however, I probably don't notice the lag as competitive players do.

I got one of these too, single input model.... the silver is a bit annoying.... Im thinking of getting some piece of black felt to cover it up....

So this monitor has a glossy coating you were saying? I had no idea im kind of new to the monitor game.

I ordered the pixel perf version from accessorieswhole and it came pixel perfect but just today I think it has developed a dead pixel rolleyes.gif after only 15 days
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Yup, I do, and will post pictures of it soon enough, a bit busy at the moment.

Apparently, a new hdmi version. Since it only supports resolutions up to 3840,2760 (as my monitor has the opportunity to downsample at that resolution), I would have to assume it is a 1.4a or b. I can't really tell since the product did not state its version. I had to buy it when it mentioned that 4k was supported since I know that the latest hdmi cable (besides 2.0), was supported. I will switch cables with a friend of mine who also has one in hand. I probably didn't seat it in properly either, but i already switched back to dvi.

I used the hdmi cable for two reasons. Its simplicity (inserting a dvi is less tasking than an hdmi imo), and to test its effeciency (I do not have a console or blu-ray player and was curious to see if the hdmi port actually worked). Then I loafed around with the monitor and neglected to switch back until three games slowed me down. I played rogue legacy, and it didn't slow down, but when tekken, Basition (great game), and super mario sunshine on the emulator (awesome color test imo), I found out that the choppyness was due to hdmi. Though I presume that my computer could not run the dolphin emulator very well, so it seems that only bastion and tekken vs street fighter had a rough time.

Also, wanted to test the audio of the monitor, and it sounds like what everyone has been saying. Nothing special and even worse than portable speakers in volume and quality.

The only specifications of the output device was that it could support 4k, 3d, and something that slipped my mind. I believe the brand is this one. http://www.iogear.com/product/GHDC1402P/ Thank you for replying.

It sound like it just may be the two games and how the driver of your video device handles video though hdmi interface as well as the program. IMO if you are not constantly plugging and unplugging your video cable then I would use DVI-D. The integrated speakers in the monitor can't be great either.
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I have Crossover 27Q and it's black when I connect it to MSI Z87 Xpower I/O ports. But I have no problem when it connected to videocard such as 8800GTX or GXT 560.
I use dual link cable in both cases, but when I connect it to motherboard I use HDMI-DVI cable instead of DVI-DVI cable when connect to external card.
Of course I get external card out, when use internal CPU graphics.

HDMI-DVI? Does this mean you are using a HDMI to DVI passive adapter with a DVI male/male cable? DVI-DVI? Does this mean you are using a male/male DVI cable from your video card output (dvi)to input on your monitor(dvi)

As to whole problem, there's some features when 27Q is connected to motherboard:
1. 27Q can display any messages in DOS mode (640x480 8bit) and windows loading animation in this mode. Splash screenAlthough, desktop could be displayed as long as you not installing intel HD 4600 drivers and max resolution then is 640x480 8bit too.
2.Neither UEFI MSI bios logo/ BIOS setup can be displayed any means nor windows desktop when you have installed intel HD 4600 drivers, even if you load windows in safe mode or restrict resolution to 640x480.

So, when noting displayed, backlight led blinking as should during windows loading, but screen is dark with black picture (dark as BSOD when you bricked a videocard).
What do you think could it be fix simply or I need to buy a videocard?

You have hdmi1 hdmi2 and Display port. Do you have auto log on enabled? When you use the built in windows video driver (not intel HD driver) it works and displays. Correct? When you install HD 4600 nothing will display? You should at least get video when you install the drivers. It may not be the correct resolution but there should be video. I have seen motherboards with multiple onboard video ports not set correctly in the bios. When you do not set a primary onboard video device and you leave it to bios auto default it will select an output video device automatically (auto detect) Sounds like when it is loading windows splash screen it reverts to what ever is set in the bios when windows logs into desktop.(display port) Make sure you have properly configured your video settings in the bios. I would set video device PCI, PCIE, onboard. (set to onboard) There should be primary, secondary and a third option to set. I would set primary to hdmi1 secondary to hdmi2. What I will do tomorrow is grab a HDMI to DVI passive adapter from work and test it with my intel 4k HD onboard through HDMI. (ivy)
Edited by Craigaaa - 9/29/13 at 5:25pm
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Have you tried directly plugging it into your video output device/video card? Since the panel still has backlight from the led driver board it looks like it is your video board. The blue led is lit so it is still receiving a video signal. If it were outputting no voltage on the voltage pins on the lvds connector the led would still stay lit (blue). This is what our video boards do where I work. When the lvds cable is unplugged the osd button board will stay lit blue/green because it records the input signal to the video board not the output signal to the panel. So it appears you have a faulty video board. Lets just say I have seen the led drivers fail and video boards fail in the 27Qs. I have yet to see a bad lg panel.
Buy the video board from AW. They are a great distributor to deal with. Monitors are really easy to swap parts.

Would a bad video board be causing these problems?

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Question for you all- I jumped on the Crossover bandwagon but went with a 320D GameKing (should arrive in the next couple of days). I'm hard pressed to find any reviews of the monitor, and if it will work with a display port adapter (if every thing goes as it should I might swap out my 24" eyefinity setup for a 32" one)
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HDMI-DVI? Does this mean you are using a HDMI to DVI passive adapter with a DVI male/male cable? DVI-DVI? Does this mean you are using a male/male DVI cable from your video card output (dvi)to input on your monitor(dvi)
yes, it seems hdmi-dvi passive adapter with male-female accordingly.
My looks exactly as that - http://www.ebay.com/itm/271275471678

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When you use the built in windows video driver (not intel HD driver) it works and displays.
Not exactly that, it's not built in driver - it's default display adapter driver. I cut built in drivers for nvidia, amd and intel graphics from windows iso ... but the main problem isn't in windows.
I want to overclock my CPU and can't view BIOS setup!
So, I can't even configure BIOS when I use 4770K graphics.

When I use external adapter I set "display first" "IGP" and then restart with or without card - result is the same, I can see windows in 640x480 through motherboard HDMI but not BIOS or POST.
Also I tried to set support of multiple displays on for internal graphics but it doesn't work too.
Edited by Physics2007 - 9/30/13 at 11:34am
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