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Would a bad video board be causing these problems?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmRVUNaAB7Y

It looks like it still has backlight to me which makes me believe it is a bad video board. It may not be sending correct voltage to panel. I would still check the led driver board and make sure you have the new revision. The old revisions mosfet will overheat and fail after 6 months to a year depending on the use of the monitor. The old revision is a blue pcb labeled Digital Wave LED DRIVER BOARD REV 00 (silk screen). If it is the old revision I highly recommend you contact your seller and send pictures of the mosfet/back of pcb.( it should be brown from overheating) You may need a new led driver and video board.

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Originally Posted by Physics2007 View Post

yes, it seems hdmi-dvi passive adapter with male-female accordingly.
My looks exactly as that - http://www.ebay.com/itm/271275471678
Not exactly that, it's not built in driver - it's default display adapter driver. I cut built in drivers for nvidia, amd and intel graphics from windows iso confused... but the main problem isn't in windows.
I want to overclock my CPU and can't view BIOS setup!
So, I can't even configure BIOS when I use 4770K graphics.

When I use external adapter I set "display first" "IGP" and then restart with or without card - result is the same, I can see windows in 640x480 through motherboard HDMI but not BIOS or POST. You will need to set more than IGP. MSI motherboards have primary and secondary and default auto detect. What you set is common on every motherboard. You need to look under video configuration.
Also I tried to set support of multiple displays on for internal graphics but it doesn't work too.Assuming this is in windows? You have to have two display devices (monitors) for that option to work. Did you have two monitors connected?

Things to check in bios:

Advanced
Integrated Graphics Configuration
Enter and set accordingly

Virtu Technology [Disabled]

IGD Multi-Monitor [Disabled]

Boot
Full Screen Logo Display [DISABLE]


All gui based OS have a built in standard VGA driver. If they did not then video would never be displayed on the screen if the manufactures driver was not installed. When you boot in safe mode or VGA mode it disables the manufactures driver and uses the built in windows standard VGA driver. Sounds like very simular problems I have encountered. The onboard video ports aren't set properly (unless all are autodetect when power to motherboard) If it is not set it will default to dispay port, (black screen) after post windows will autodetect the monitor through the driver and display windows. I have also encountered the problem on a certain korean video board where it would not display post but windows splash screen and desktop only. We solved this by flashing it to force autodetect on power up on both DVI and hdmi input ports. As soon as the board is powered on it searches for a video signal sent from motherboard. I would grab a known working monitor and use the same procedure to try and replicate the issue. If it works with another monitor it may be a compatibility issue of the video board in the crossover and your motherboard. Make sure you flash your bios to the latest version on msi website.
Edited by Craigaaa - 9/30/13 at 7:38pm
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Assuming this is in windows? You have to have two display devices (monitors) for that option to work. Did you have two monitors connected?
No, I tried to set it because I thought another settings could help me to see picture.

it's my settings when I try to work with internal graphics


as to drivers - you can customize your win 7 iso using rt7lite program, don't think problem in windows due to that. As you state beneath, I left built in standard VGA driver in iso and cut drivers, which I should install in any case.

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Originally Posted by Craigaaa View Post

All gui based OS have a built in standard VGA driver. If they did not then video would never be displayed on the screen if the manufactures driver was not installed. When you boot in safe mode or VGA mode it disables the manufactures driver and uses the built in windows standard VGA driver. Sounds like very simular problems I have encountered. The onboard video ports aren't set properly (unless all are autodetect when power to motherboard) If it is not set it will default to dispay port, (black screen) after post windows will autodetect the monitor through the driver and display windows. I have also encountered the problem on a certain korean video board where it would not display post but windows splash screen and desktop only. We solved this by flashing it to force autodetect on power up on both DVI and hdmi input ports. As soon as the board is powered on it searches for a video signal sent from motherboard. I would grab a known working monitor and use the same procedure to try and replicate the issue. If it works with another monitor it may be a compatibility issue of the video board in the crossover and your motherboard. Make sure you flash your bios to the latest version on msi website.
Yes, I theoretically could grab monitor, but I'm from Russia, here aren't many people with 27 displays among my friends, exactly none=)
And I think it'll be perfectly worked, it needn't to test another monitor.

Your assumption about displayport is similar to mine, I want to use adapter to DVI and try. I think I will have it in 3-5 days to test.
My colleague said that 27Q have some problems with scaling and this probably is a main problem.


As to windows 640x480 (through f8) mode: you quite right that drivers of HD4600 is disabled, but you probably forget about colour depth, it's not a 8bit in this mode. However, It was noticed 27Q can work in 640x480 8bit through hdmi
It also can represent UEFI Shell, because it have 640x480 8bit resolution. But it can't represent BIOS, because it have resolution 1024x768

...
it seems displayport is more capable in data transfer rate terms.

Edited by Physics2007 - 10/1/13 at 6:49am
post #6123 of 6483
Need a little help- Got my Crossover in yesterday, went to set it up and it doesn't have a power brick like what I see on everyone else's, its using a.... built in plug. As in I can't remove it, so I guess I'll need to get a adapter I just can't figure out which one, and I don't feel like paying 20+ for universal one that fits "most" foreign configurations (already tried that and have to take it back to where I purchased it as it doesn't have the plug type I need)
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Had the Blacktune for a week now - still love it but found a few tiny problems

1. where the glass meets the metal frame at the bottom its does not 100 % join smooth/flat
2. i have found 2 tiny "spots" on the screen they are hard to describe its not dirt and its not BLB - it almost looks like its under the glass - any idea's?
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No, I tried to set it because I thought another settings could help me to see picture.

it's my settings when I try to work with internal graphics


as to drivers - you can customize your win 7 iso using rt7lite program, don't think problem in windows due to that. As you state beneath, I left built in standard VGA driver in iso and cut drivers, which I should install in any case.
Yes, I theoretically could grab monitor, but I'm from Russia, here aren't many people with 27 displays among my friends, exactly none=)
And I think it'll be perfectly worked, it needn't to test another monitor.

Your assumption about displayport is similar to mine, I want to use adapter to DVI and try. I think I will have it in 3-5 days to test.
My colleague said that 27Q have some problems with scaling and this probably is a main problem.


As to windows 640x480 (through f8) mode: you quite right that drivers of HD4600 is disabled, but you probably forget about colour depth, it's not a 8bit in this mode. However, It was noticed 27Q can work in 640x480 8bit through hdmi
It also can represent UEFI Shell, because it have 640x480 8bit resolution. But it can't represent BIOS, because it have resolution 1024x768

...
it seems displayport is more capable in data transfer rate terms.

You don't have to have exactly a 27" monitor to test. It can be any size monitor with a DVI input. Setup the same configuration you are using with your crossover. I have already known about the built in scaler but mainly only hear issues with laptops and consoles. You should be able to lower the resolution in vga mode and choose the color depth. If the panel is 8 bit (24 bit true) it should support anything below. SOme UEFI bios can support up to 1920x1080 so theroretically it should work in 1024x768 but that all depends on how the video controller chip is programmed. It should show post screen since post is 640x480 that is if you have boot logo disabled. If it is enabled you will just see an overlay of a logo. Now I have seen lower resolution panels 800x600 not show the boot logo because the resolution is 1024x760 but you will usually see only the hot keys for the bios. What I think is they programmed the video controller chip as a fixed resolution of 640x480 and it does not have a scaler so it cannot upscale/downscale the video automatically unless a driver tells it to. It kind of makes sense since when windows recognizes the monitor and your video driver is loaded the lowest resolution is 800x600 anything below that will work but any with a fixed resolution such as 1024x768 (UEFI a driver but fixed) or above the monitor cannot support it since it doesnt have a built in scaler to adjust the fixed video signal coming in. If it did have one the video signal coming in would be automatically adjusted to the correct resolution. I just tested a hdmi to dvi passive adapter and it did not work with my ivy bridge. So I suggest buying a video card. I will contact crossover and see if they have any updated firmware that can fix this. Maybe they will send me a test kit with different firmware. They may even be able to change the fixed resolution to your preferred setting for a small fee.

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Need a little help- Got my Crossover in yesterday, went to set it up and it doesn't have a power brick like what I see on everyone else's, its using a.... built in plug. As in I can't remove it, so I guess I'll need to get a adapter I just can't figure out which one, and I don't feel like paying 20+ for universal one that fits "most" foreign configurations (already tried that and have to take it back to where I purchased it as it doesn't have the plug type I need)

Wait wait wait. What model crossover? If its the 27Q model it has a 4 pin female power connector on the I/O. The input voltage is 24Vdc. If this is your model then you will need to contact your seller and have them ship you a external power supply. If you buy a aftermarket power supply the pins are not the same polarity, meaning it will damage the video board. In my previous posts (10 or so pages back) I illustrate the pinout polarity in a picture. Make sure you double check. Long story short, user on the forum bought a 4 pin male power supply for his crossover and the manufacture pinout was opposite and fried his video board.
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Had the Blacktune for a week now - still love it but found a few tiny problems

1. where the glass meets the metal frame at the bottom its does not 100 % join smooth/flat
2. i have found 2 tiny "spots" on the screen they are hard to describe its not dirt and its not BLB - it almost looks like its under the glass - any idea's?

1. It could be the metal is bowed or the lexan is not flat.
2. Take it apart, remove panel, use a little water and a clean microfiber towel to clean it. Use air compressor or make sure no large particles are left behind. It may be debris in between the lexan and polarized glass on the panel.
Edited by Craigaaa - 10/2/13 at 9:49pm
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Wait wait wait. What model crossover? If its the 27Q model it has a 4 pin female power connector on the I/O. The input voltage is 24Vdc. If this is your model then you will need to contact your seller and have them ship you a external power supply. If you buy a aftermarket power supply the pins are not the same polarity, meaning it will damage the video board. In my previous posts (10 or so pages back) I illustrate the pinout polarity in a picture. Make sure you double check. Long story short, user on the forum bought a 4 pin male power supply for his crossover and the manufacture pinout was opposite and fried his video board.

its the 320D- a 32" model. No power brick, but the cable is built into the model, its a "Type C" connector. Has 2 round pines, 19mm long & 4.8mm in diameter. All I needed (confirmed with the seller on e-bay) is a type C adapter to what we use in the US (Nema 1-15) as the seller and info on the monitor states its rated for 100-240v (mean if you can get it plugged in it will work). Thought it odd that they shipped it with a single linke DVI cable (::: ::: -) instead of a dual link (:::::::: - or ::::::::: :-: ) though.
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Hey guys, I have a noob question. I have a 550ti graphics card with two DVI-I dual link outputs. Is there any reason a dual monitor setup with two 27Q's wouldn't work properly with this setup? Thanks!
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its the 320D- a 32" model. No power brick, but the cable is built into the model, its a "Type C" connector. Has 2 round pines, 19mm long & 4.8mm in diameter. All I needed (confirmed with the seller on e-bay) is a type C adapter to what we use in the US (Nema 1-15) as the seller and info on the monitor states its rated for 100-240v (mean if you can get it plugged in it will work). Thought it odd that they shipped it with a single linke DVI cable (::: ::: -) instead of a dual link (:::::::: - or ::::::::: :-: ) though.

Ok I thought it was a 27Q. I would just cut the two prong male end off and solder a type B end on. If it's not earthed since it only has two prong just leave the ground wire. The reason why they sent you a single link DVI cable is because 1920x1080 resolution does not require dual link.

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Hey guys, I have a noob question. I have a 550ti graphics card with two DVI-I dual link outputs. Is there any reason a dual monitor setup with two 27Q's wouldn't work properly with this setup? Thanks!

Yes, it will work.
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Hey guys, I have a noob question. I have a 550ti graphics card with two DVI-I dual link outputs. Is there any reason a dual monitor setup with two 27Q's wouldn't work properly with this setup? Thanks!

This question can be answered by just reading the seller's descriptions of the monitor.
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Hey guys, I have a noob question. I have a 550ti graphics card with two DVI-I dual link outputs. Is there any reason a dual monitor setup with two 27Q's wouldn't work properly with this setup? Thanks!

This question can be answered by just reading the seller's descriptions of the monitor.
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