Originally Posted by r0ach
Got to be kidding me, I never claimed anything besides exactly what I posted screenshots of. Stop trying to twist my words around.
The Nvidia drivers have a crap ton of input lag except 267.59 and 295.73 with "No Scaling" or "Display - No Scaling" selected, the end, nothing else to discuss. Whatever nomenclature you want to try and argue about is irrelevant.
"GPU - No Scaling" on the Nvidia drivers has a lot higher input lag than "Display - No scaling" and you're forced to use GPU scaling with the Crossover unless you load an older driver before the scaling module was rewritten such as 267.59.
You said that you can select DISPLAY no scaling with the crossover monitor with the older driver. You just said it again! Your quote below.except 267.59 and 295.73 with "No Scaling" or "Display - No Scaling" selected
Well which one is it? No scaling option or Display- No scaling because I am only seeing the option for No scaling which is used by Nvidia (GPU). You cannot perform scaling on the display because it is greyed out and does not have a scaler. (crossover)
Yes, I already know that you said the older driver lets you disable use of the gpu for scaling and with the newer driver you are forced to use the gpu for scaling. I already said this in my post from the screenshot you showed. You don't even know understand what are saying. In reality you should not be able to perform scaling on a display that does not have a scaler built in. In order to select DISPLAY NO SCALING with the crossover monitor with the older driver you should have a scaler built in to your monitor! I am asking you how the hell the older driver lets you select a virtual device in the older driver with your crossover. What you are saying in your post is telling everyone with the older driver you can perform scaling on your crossovers korean monitor and select the option DISPLAY no scaling. What the driver realistically should be doing on a hardware level is detecting the scaler in the crossover and then you are able to disable the scaling. I understand the older driver has input lag that you can notice but only a few people will notice it. It makes sense to me why they rewrote the driver. It makes it easier to use and perform scaling on the proper device. Now the older driver based on your theory forces perform scaling on: "display" then option NO scaling is selected. I am not seeing that with the older driver. What you are doing in the older driver is the exact same thing you are on the new driver with the crossover monitor. Quote from your thread below.
"After loading up the old driver and using the standard "No Scaling" option, your Korean IPS will now feel like CRT-level response.""The "GPU - No Scaling" option has vastly higher input lag than the "Display - No Scaling" choice."
The older driver greys out the use of the Displays scaler. You cannot perform scaling with the display! You are still forced to use NVIDIA (GPU) for scaling which you then select No scaling option. You are saying that the GPU- No scaling option has higher input lag when Nvidia- No scaling option in the old control panel is the same thing.
I am asking you a simple question which you cannot answer. You are just posting screenshots, instructions how to bypass the input lag. I want to see a screenshot of the older control panel with the USE MY DISPLAY for scaling and then you selecting the option for NO SCALING. Where the DISPLAY performs the scaling. (with crossover) Right now you are completely wrong and the old/new drivers have exactly the same options which still force you to use NVIDIA or "GPU" for scaling.
Below shows the older driver control panel and the new driver control panel. Nvidia scaling in the older control panel means your NVIDIA "GPU." I am not sure why you think you are performing scaling on the DISPLAY since it is greyed out. You are still forced using the NVIDIA or GPU with the older driver while selecting no scaling option. That would be the exact same with the newer driver when I am forced to perform scaling with GPU then selecting no scaling option, nvidia just removed the greyed out perform scaling on the DISPLAY option because the display does not have a scaler. Why would it be there it would make people like you more confused and it did with the older driver.
Old control panel/ driver showing that you cannot perform any type of scaling on the DISPLAY device (crossover) since it is greyed out. The old driver forces the option of perform scaling on NVIDIA which means your GPU and you select No scaling. So if you were in the newer control panel it would be the same thing as being forced to use GPU as the scaler and selecting No scaling option.
New driver with a monitor that has a built in scaler. Both scaling devices appear.
The new driver on the crossover without a scaler. Only GPU scaling device appears since the crossover does not have a scaler. Which is the exact same options as the old driver just easier to understand which device performs the scaling. The older driver calls the scaling device NVIDIA where as with the newer driver they call it "GPU". So the new driver detects the scaling devices exactly the same as the old driver. The older driver just forces the display option to appear but it cannot be selected. The new driver completely removes it since there is not scaler in the display to begin with. Says hey I detected a scaling device and the only one you have is GPU or "NVIDIA" (old driver) so I won't bother showing the option for display scaling device because I didn't detect one. The old driver acts the same but it isn't as smart. It says hey I'm showing all scaling devices possible that I am written for but if I don't find a GPU scaling device or Display scaling device I am making the option greyed out. (undetected)
new control panel/driver compared to old control panel/driver, same options.Edited by Craigaaa - 10/27/13 at 7:15am