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Originally Posted by telemach View Post

I have troubles eliminating artifacts on my 27Q. It looks similar as this

http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1196517/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL

but often it gets worse, I tried many option in AMD drivers since 12.11 till 13.9

very often it occurs when Firefox in running and other directshow video comes in

I wonder if it's my graphics card HD7770, drivers or maybe a faulty cable

Best way to find out if its your monitor or your video card is just connect a different working monitor and test. If no artifacts show up on the test monitor then its the crossovers video board. If the artifacts show up on the test monitor then its your video card. That simple.
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I'm shopping for a 27" Korean monitor at the moment, and thinking about the 2720MDP GOLD LED​ (or the QX2710 LED Evolution II).

The pro for the Crossover is the 10bit and relatively cheap HDMI version.

The pro for the Qnix is the (potential) overclockability.

Has anyone got one of the GOLD LED HDMI versions? Any thoughts on this model?
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Originally Posted by enting View Post

I'm shopping for a 27" Korean monitor at the moment, and thinking about the 2720MDP GOLD LED​ (or the QX2710 LED Evolution II).

The pro for the Crossover is the 10bit and relatively cheap HDMI version.

The pro for the Qnix is the (potential) overclockability.

Has anyone got one of the GOLD LED HDMI versions? Any thoughts on this model?

Wait I thought crossover did not sell a 10 bit panel yet. All the specs I have read on the 2720MDP are 8 bit. You might want to get the exact model number of the LG S-IPS panel and verify this and video board before you buy. If it is a full 10 bit then I would definitely be interested in this monitor, especially if the board supports 30 bit alone rather then a frc installed. I read another spec on a different ebay seller saying it is 8/10 bit. The panel must support 8/10 bit (24/30) but does the video board output 10 bit? If the panel checks out 10 bit it will depend on the video board then.
Edited by Craigaaa - 10/26/13 at 8:39pm
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Wait I thought crossover did not sell a 10 bit panel yet. All the specs I have read on the 2720MDP are 8 bit. You might want to get the exact model number of the LG S-IPS panel and verify this and video board before you buy. If it is a full 10 bit then I would definitely be interested in this monitor, especially if the board supports 30 bit alone rather then a frc installed. I read another spec on a different ebay seller saying it is 8/10 bit. The panel must support 8/10 bit (24/30) but does the video board output 10 bit? If the panel checks out 10 bit it will depend on the video board then.
I seen it on Page 1 of this thread and then found one on ebay. It is 8/10bit but is that different from just a 10bit panel? Info on Page 1 as I say, here's the Korean manufacturer's page: http://crosslcd.co.kr/main.html?tmp=product&pg=2720MDP
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Got to be kidding me, I never claimed anything besides exactly what I posted screenshots of. Stop trying to twist my words around.

The Nvidia drivers have a crap ton of input lag except 267.59 and 295.73 with "No Scaling" or "Display - No Scaling" selected, the end, nothing else to discuss. Whatever nomenclature you want to try and argue about is irrelevant.


"GPU - No Scaling" on the Nvidia drivers has a lot higher input lag than "Display - No scaling" and you're forced to use GPU scaling with the Crossover unless you load an older driver before the scaling module was rewritten such as 267.59.

I will make this as clear as possible. The newer nvidia drivers have input lag with the crossover monitor execpt 267.59 and 295.73. The new driver you are forced to use "GPU" as the scaling device but when you select the No Scaling option I noticed input lag. The older driver again you are forced to use NVIDIA as the scaling device which is the same thing as GPU in the new driver. You will select the No Scaling option in the older Nvidia control panel. I found this to have the least input lag. You will notice with the older driver that "Use my Displays built in scaler" is greyed out. This is normal since you do not have a scaler built into the crossover. The new driver will completely remove the Perform scaling on: "Display" from the control panel. They did not leave this option greyed out like they did with the older driver. I mean why should they?

Now a monitor that has a built in scaler what should you do? If you are using the new driver which you should, you will select the Display device then No scaling option.
Edited by Craigaaa - 10/27/13 at 7:39am
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I seen it on Page 1 of this thread and then found one on ebay. It is 8/10bit but is that different from just a 10bit panel? Info on Page 1 as I say, here's the Korean manufacturer's page: http://crosslcd.co.kr/main.html?tmp=product&pg=2720MDP

No, difference. Typically if the panel supports 10 bit it will support 8 bit as well. It is just a 8/10 bit panel. What you really want to find out is why they even put 8 bit in their description of the monitor because on ebay they say 8/10bit some say 8 bit. I mean if you are advertising a monitor that will be 10 bit(30) and have over a billion colors why would you even list 8 bit at all? Is the panel 8/10 bit and does the video board only support 8 bit? I am not sure. You will have to ask the seller if it is a true 10 bit monitor. The video board has to output the 10bit (30) to the 10 bit panel in order for the full colors. If the video board only outputs 8 bit then the panel will be an 8 bit panel with less colors (16.7m). Making it the same as every crossover monitor I have seen with 16.7 million colors. If you add an FRC board in between the 8 bit video board and the 8/10 bit panel it will bump the video data signal output up 2 more bits making it 10 bit total (30bit). We use FRC's a lot since it is much cheaper than an actual 10 bit video board. Not sure what is inside this specific model but I would make sure to ask.
Edited by Craigaaa - 10/27/13 at 7:59am
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I'm waiting on a response from them about another question, but here is a link to the particular item (I hope that is allowed!):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CROSSOVER-NEW-2720MDP-GOLD-LED-Perfect-Pixel-2560x1440QHD-LG-S-IPS-27-Monitor-/120926766239?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item1c27cc049f
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I'm waiting on a response from them about another question, but here is a link to the particular item (I hope that is allowed!):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CROSSOVER-NEW-2720MDP-GOLD-LED-Perfect-Pixel-2560x1440QHD-LG-S-IPS-27-Monitor-/120926766239?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item1c27cc049f

You should ask them if it is a full 10bit 1.07B color monitor since they list it as 8/10.
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Wait I thought crossover did not sell a 10 bit panel yet. All the specs I have read on the 2720MDP are 8 bit. You might want to get the exact model number of the LG S-IPS panel and verify this and video board before you buy. If it is a full 10 bit then I would definitely be interested in this monitor, especially if the board supports 30 bit alone rather then a frc installed. I read another spec on a different ebay seller saying it is 8/10 bit. The panel must support 8/10 bit (24/30) but does the video board output 10 bit? If the panel checks out 10 bit it will depend on the video board then.

I thought the Crossover Black Tune 2755 and 2763 (not the 2735) were 10 bit?

I got the Achieva Shimian QH2700 Lite Edge because it was 10 bit AH IPS and it has DVI and VGA inputs and was cheaper than the Black Tune 2755.
Edited by andrew110 - 10/27/13 at 8:49pm
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I thought the Crossover Black Tune 2755 and 2763 (not the 2735) were 10 bit?

I got the Achieva Shimian QH2700 Lite Edge because it was 10 bit AH IPS and it has DVI and VGA inputs and was cheaper than the Black Tune 2755.

From this review http://www.overclock.net/products/crossover-black-tune-2735amg-ips-led/reviews/6066 the panel is a LM270WQ1-SDF1 but I am now believing it is 10 bit since all the seller descriptions say 10 bit. I think I actually did say it was 10 bit in the past.doh.gif
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