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Why do you guys always going with 27" ones? And not the 30" ones? Just wondering, cause Im looking for one of these Korean monitor as well and I kinda like the 30" 2560-1600 res, but I see so many ppl buying these 27" ones. Is there an advantage from these 27" ones? besides the 120hz overclock from some of them
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I have both and I like them both for different reasons.

I just love the build quality on the CrossOver 27Q LED.

I love the build quality also. Its the closest industrial monitor for average consumer. Wish all monitors were built like the 27Q. It almost reminds me of the monitors we manufacture at my work.

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Why do you guys always going with 27" ones? And not the 30" ones? Just wondering, cause Im looking for one of these Korean monitor as well and I kinda like the 30" 2560-1600 res, but I see so many ppl buying these 27" ones. Is there an advantage from these 27" ones? besides the 120hz overclock from some of them

Cheaper and higher PPI.
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Why do you guys always going with 27" ones? And not the 30" ones? Just wondering, cause Im looking for one of these Korean monitor as well and I kinda like the 30" 2560-1600 res, but I see so many ppl buying these 27" ones. Is there an advantage from these 27" ones? besides the 120hz overclock from some of them

The matte CCFL back-lit 30" models all use the same grainy matte coating, have poor contrast (500-800:1 vs. 900-1300:1 for the 27")/black levels and are wide gamut (google this)=inaccurate and over-saturated colors for consumer media. Unless you know how to enable color management in the very few programs which support color management or have an AMD graphics card+use these settings (AMD Catalyst Control Center>display color section and check "Use Extended Display Identification Data (EDID)" in Color Temperature Control) the colors will be wrong. None of the Korean 30" monitors have sRGB modes so there is no way to get proper colors for games and movies unless you own and AMD graphics card. The Crossover 30X does not use a grainy matte coating but suffers from the same obvious overshoot ghosting as the Dell 3014.

30" monitors also have far more IPS/PLS glow vs. a 27" when viewed from 60-90cm/2-3ft, so, unless you want to sit at least 121cm/4ft away the bottom sides of the screen will exhibit far more glow in dark scenes vs. a 27", especially if the brightness is cranked. The increase in resolution from 1440-1600 is minimal.



All 30" monitors are a rip off since 2x 1440p monitors can be purchased for the same price. The 27" monitors typically have superior overdrive solutions (less ghosting), better color and brightness uniformity, and glossy+matte options. The 30" which use Tempered Glass have very poor black levels, for example, the Samsung 970D on the left in the below image uses the same tempered glass as the Apple Cinema+Thunderbolt Display, Dell S series and Korean monitors. The NEC on the right uses LG's semi-glossy coating which is basically the same as the coating the matte Qnix+X-Star use.

9261789761_ec849af3ba_o.jpg
Edited by MenacingTuba - 11/20/13 at 7:39pm
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The matte CCFL back-lit 30" models all use grainy matte coatings, have poor contrast (500-800:1 vs. 900-1300:1 for the 27")/black levels and are wide gamut (google this)=inaccurate and over-saturated colors for consumer media. Unless you know how to enable color management in the very few programs which support color management or have an AMD graphics card+use these settings (AMD Catalyst Control Center>display color section and check "Use Extended Display Identification Data (EDID)" in Color Temperature Control) the colors will be wrong. None of the Korean 30" monitors have sRGB modes so there is no way to get proper colors for games and movies unless you own and AMD graphics card. The Crossover 30X does not use a grainy matte coating but suffers from the same obvious overshoot ghosting as the Dell 3014.

30" monitors also have far more IPS/PLS glow vs. a 27" when viewed from 60-90cm/2-3ft, so, unless you want to sit at least 121cm/4ft away the bottom sides of the screen will exhibit far more glow in dark scenes vs. a 27", especially if the brightness is cranked. The increase in resolution from 1440-1600 is minimal.



All 30" monitors are a rip off since 2x 1440p monitors can be purchased for the same price. The 27" monitors typically have superior overdrive solutions (less ghosting), better color and brightness uniformity, and glossy+matte options. The 30" which use Tempered Glass have very poor black levels, for example, the Samsung 970D on the left in the below image uses the same tempered glass as the Apple Cinema+Thunderbolt Display, Dell S series and Korean monitors. The NEC on the right uses LG's semi-glossy coating which is basically the same as the coating the matte Qnix+X-Star use.

9261789761_ec849af3ba_o.jpg

Thanks for the explanation smile.gif
post #6235 of 6483
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Originally Posted by MenacingTuba View Post

The matte CCFL back-lit 30" models all use grainy matte coatings, have poor contrast (500-800:1 vs. 900-1300:1 for the 27")/black levels and are wide gamut (google this)=inaccurate and over-saturated colors for consumer media. Unless you know how to enable color management in the very few programs which support color management or have an AMD graphics card+use these settings (AMD Catalyst Control Center>display color section and check "Use Extended Display Identification Data (EDID)" in Color Temperature Control) the colors will be wrong. None of the Korean 30" monitors have sRGB modes so there is no way to get proper colors for games and movies unless you own and AMD graphics card. The Crossover 30X does not use a grainy matte coating but suffers from the same obvious overshoot ghosting as the Dell 3014.

30" monitors also have far more IPS/PLS glow vs. a 27" when viewed from 60-90cm/2-3ft, so, unless you want to sit at least 121cm/4ft away the bottom sides of the screen will exhibit far more glow in dark scenes vs. a 27", especially if the brightness is cranked. The increase in resolution from 1440-1600 is minimal.



All 30" monitors are a rip off since 2x 1440p monitors can be purchased for the same price. The 27" monitors typically have superior overdrive solutions (less ghosting), better color and brightness uniformity, and glossy+matte options. The 30" which use Tempered Glass have very poor black levels, for example, the Samsung 970D on the left in the below image uses the same tempered glass as the Apple Cinema+Thunderbolt Display, Dell S series and Korean monitors. The NEC on the right uses LG's semi-glossy coating which is basically the same as the coating the matte Qnix+X-Star use.

9261789761_ec849af3ba_o.jpg

Someones a little obsessed with monitors. smile.gif
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So no one has any of these Korean 30" monitors? If you do, can you tell me if you have grainy anti glare coating like those Dell U3011 ones?

Also, does anyone know if the overclockmonitor.com site is legit ? should i order there or Ebay?
Edited by jincuteguy - 11/20/13 at 1:05pm
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So no one has any of these Korean 30" monitors? If you do, can you tell me if you have grainy anti glare coating like those Dell U3011 ones?

All matte CCFL back-lit 30" monitors use the same grainy coating. Unless you equate art-direction-disrespecting over-saturated+inaccurate wide gamut colors and more pronounced IPS/PLS glow with quality the best 27" 1440p monitors are way better than all of the 30" Korean monitors.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 11/20/13 at 8:35pm
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All matte CCFL back-lit 30" monitors use the same grainy coating. Unless you equate art-direction-disrespecting over-saturated+inaccurate wide gamut colors and more pronounced IPS/PLS glow with quality the best 27" 1440p monitors are way better than all of the 30" Korean monitors.

So which one is the best 27" 1440 monitor?
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So which one is the best 27" 1440 monitor?

List of the best 1440p monitors
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List of the best 1440p monitors

The only 2 Korean 27" on that list are the Qnix and Crossover, the rest are around $700+ price range.
Also, do you know overclockmonitor.com is legit or not?
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