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to be fair with AMD they did a great job catching up with nvidia. just a few years ago nvidia was dominating the gpu market now both nvidia and amd's flagships have comparable performance with the gtx 680 beig a slightly better card but the 7970 was released almost 4 months ahead. impressive job by the amd graphics department. kudos to them. if only the cpu segment was like this. intel is killing amd so bad lol
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to be fair with AMD they did a great job catching up with nvidia. just a few years ago nvidia was dominating the gpu market now both nvidia and amd's flagships have comparable performance with the gtx 680 beig a slightly better card but the 7970 was released almost 4 months ahead. impressive job by the amd graphics department. kudos to them. if only the cpu segment was like this. intel is killing amd so bad lol

Yeah I really wish AMD would come up with a better processor. It's funny cause to me it seems like with every graphics gen Nvidia and AMD's architectures are getting more and more similar. I mean AMD's strengh with compute was traded for Nvidia's strength in perf per watt. It's almost like they both looked at each other's architectures and decided to really improve in those two areas to the detriment of the other one.

It's just kind of interesting to me.
    
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Why not run them both at the same speed and see the difference? Every card will clock differently so to compare a GPU running almost 100 MHz faster is not an honest review in my opinion.

Just like you can't compare clock speeds of amd vs intel, the same applies here. Max overclocks and stock speed comparisons are the best for this. Comparing an Arch 1 to Arch 2 where one is clocked to 1000Mhz and the other is 500Mhz. While both compare equally at this clockspeed, comparing them at the same clockspeed would show the other card as being the best even though they run on the same voltage and consume the same power at stock settings. Different architectures mean that clockspeed comparisons are completely worthless and stock comparison show what you should get without expecting an overclock while a general overclock of 20% shows how well the architecture overclocks in comparison to the other architecture and how well it performs at its "Max". I finger quote max because its always the silicon lottery and you only are guaranteed the stock settings, while someone might get 20% OC you might get 10% or even 5% while maintaining stability.
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Clock for clock comparison is mostly irrelevant across GPU families. It's more important to focus on relative overclocks (EG % clock increases and performance gains)

If that's the case then the 7970 is the clear winner in those charts. It gains considerably more FPS by overclocking ~ the same amount as the 680
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Here is a quote from a reviewer that absolutely OC'ed his GTX 680 to the max with mods. Yes, at high-end level of OCing, AMD is the king imo, at stock the GTX 680 looks like the ideal card to get.

 

 

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Thirdly, far from the Nvidia card is called the World's Fastest GPU for the HD7950 has absolutely no problem to overcome with a lot in 3DMark Vantage, 3DMark 2011 or 2003. In my articles counts peaks obtained in step bench and watch the results if the HD7950 to a frequency less than 20MHz see that are far beyond those of GTX680. HD 7950 GPU score goes over 40K in Vantage at 1300mhz, while GTX680 in similar conditions can not reach this value.

 

This was from a source posted by el_gappo (Benchmark editor).

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If that's the case then the 7970 is the clear winner in those charts. It gains considerably more FPS by overclocking ~ the same amount as the 680

everyone knows that the 7970 was a gimped card. what I'm interested now is how AMD will answer this release by nvidia. they may have more tricks up in their sleeves. like what I said earlier, a massive driver update wouldn't be surprising. but honestly I'm hoping for a price drop instead. a massive one (seeing they've made a killing for selling those cards at a high price for months). bringing in price:performance again and maybe forcing nvidia to do a price drop too. ohh the joy of competition.
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Cant wait to get 80+fps on my 60hz monitor.
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In some cases, BF3 especially, 680 is really impressive. It consumes less power then 7970 too, so ppl talking about AMD striking back are wrong, there is no room to do that, and even if there is nVidia has more room. They did it by sacrificing compute power and it shows what a great job AMD did. For the first time nVidia is not leading this area. But for gaming 680 is the clear winner (except in few cases like Crysis)

The "clear" winner in most games at some res's. Not that it matters both cards eat any game out there anyways. wink.gif
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everyone knows that the 7970 was a gimped card. what I'm interested now is how AMD will answer this release by nvidia. they may have more tricks up in their sleeve. like what I said earlier, a massive driver update wouldn't be surprising. but honestly I'm hoping for a price drop instead. a massive one (seeing they've made a killing for selling those cards at a high price for months). bringing in price:performance again and maybe forcing nvidia to do a price drop too. ohh the joy of competition.

Wouldn't be surprised by a $75-100 drop within the next 2 weeks.
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7970 at 450 = excellent for us gamers

it will drop the prices of the 7950, 580, 570, 7870

it will be a full of win situation
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Looking at the VR-Zone charts:

680 performance increased ~19% with a ~33% overclock. 1335mhz final clock
7970 performance increased ~31% with a ~35% overclock. 1250mhz final clock

Interesting. I imagine LN2 benchmarking WR's will be changing hands pretty frequently which should be fun.

edit: or maybe not according to el_gappo
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