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Wrong. Techspot cpu scaling articles showed huge bottlenecks wih lastgen cards even. These are even faster.

Got a link?
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Wrong. Techspot cpu scaling articles showed huge bottlenecks wih lastgen cards even. These are even faster.

Does not change the fact that A. the same CPU was used with both GPUS and B. as I said earlier most reviews are using stock Sandy Bridge processors so they're results are still the same.
    
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Your point? Faster is faster and cheaper is cheaper. Funny how you amd fanboys were having orgasms over the 7970's performance just two months ago yet now the 680 releases at 10+% faster and its somehow meh? If you already own a 7970 then grats, you still got a monster card. If, however, you have a 470 or 6950 there really is no compelling reason to choose a 7970 over a 680...

Very true, hopefully AMD will lower prices somewhat. There's no reason to get a 7 series card over the 680 right now.

Still, (I just switched to 680s myself smile.gif ) I think 7970 users shouldn't have any issues, max oc 680 vs max oc 7970 seems to be a dead even heat between the 2 cards, with the 7970 winning quite a few....hardware.fr had a nice comparison on it.
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Got a link?

Yep. Got some of them, sir smile.gif.

http://www.techspot.com/review/405-the-witcher-2-performance/page8.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/467-skyrim-performance/page7.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/507-mass-effect-3-performance-test/page5.html
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Does not change the fact that A. the same CPU was used with both GPUS and B. as I said earlier most reviews are using stock Sandy Bridge processors so they're results are still the same.

You're missing the point. The CPU caps performance by bottlenecking the graphics cards. It makes the comparison invalid as you're comparing a CPU bottleneck instead of two video cards.

I'm not the only one who thinks so:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?277763-“Kepler”-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-780&p=5072730&viewfull=1#post5072730
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Hello processor bottleneck....how are you today? Messing with the Xbit results you say? Bad processor....BAD!

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Yep. Got some of them, sir smile.gif.
http://www.techspot.com/review/405-the-witcher-2-performance/page8.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/467-skyrim-performance/page7.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/507-mass-effect-3-performance-test/page5.html
You're missing the point. The CPU caps performance by bottlenecking the graphics cards. It makes the comparison invalid as you're comparing a CPU bottleneck instead of two video cards.
I'm not the only one who thinks so:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?277763-“Kepler”-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-780&p=5072730&viewfull=1#post5072730

Two of the three links show the 920 at its stock 2.6 Ghz. The only one that had the 920 running at 3.8Ghz showed it 1 fps faster than a stock i7 2600k. Are you saying that a stock i7 2600k bottlenecks a single GTX680?
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Re: CPU limited vs GPU limited. It depends on the game really. Generally speaking, the most demanding games are GPU limited (ie crysis 2, metro 2033) while older titles are cpu limited (starcraft 2, even skyrim due to poor coding). I don't see why any website would use a dated CPU in their tests, thats just mind boggling, but some games aren't really affected too greatly by cpu speed. Depends on the game really

A game like starcraft2 scales more with CPU than GPU, while crysis 2 barely scales with CPU as long as your cpu isn't unreasonably old. I think the nehalem should perform similarly to SB in something like crysis 2 if you're playing at ultra settings.
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Two of the three links show the 920 at its stock 2.6 Ghz. The only one that had the 920 running at 3.8Ghz showed it 1 fps faster than a stock i7 2600k. Are you saying that a stock i7 2600k bottlenecks a single GTX680?

Considering that a GTX 570 SLI, which is *slower* than a GTX 680 single, is bottlenecked by a stock 2500K/2600K, yes, I am. This info is readily available on google.
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Wrong. The majority of results are showing the 680 tends to handle heavy tessellation better. I have never once said that all of the sudden the 7970 sucks. What i have said though is that the 680 provides generally stronger performance (even overclocked and at high/surround resolutions) at a reduced cost and with lower power consumption. Given that it is indeed faster Im not sure why somebody would choose a 7970 over it. Even at 5760x1080 it keeps up with or surpasses the 7970...
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I'd say the majority of the results tend to say both cards are very similar at comparable clock speeds. Yes, the price and power consumption lean 680 right now. No argument there, but it seems everyone is so eager to call a winner they can't see the forest from the threes. These cards perform very similarly. Arguing over 3-5 fps and <10% differences in performance is nitpicking. Those results are well within the margin of error when considering the variety of set-ups everyone runs.
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GTX680 is more expensive then a 7970 in the UK...
And it's funny because after all the hype and all the fuss it's still slower then what was hyped....
And yet no one is saying that... The only person that's said it's a bit disappointing because of all the fuss and hype is Tiny Tom Logan...

While it sucks you guys get bad pricing in the UK, the 680 is just as fast as it was hyped to be. This is a midranged chip turned flagship and it is beating AMD's flagship. Most of the AMD fans expected it to barely beat a 580. The rumors put it between the 7970 and 7950, yet with benches out it seems to beat the 7970 sometimes by a little and other times by a lot.

I'll say this again, it is a midranged chip beating AMD's best chip. That is far from a disappointment and leaves me looking forward to seeing what their actuall high-end chip(GK110) can do.
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