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So where is the price movement already? I guess this is kind of a paper launch and product isn't really available, I assume as they fill the channel we'll see price drops from AMD, hopefully enough to make Nvidia counter.

Either way none of these cards are worth an upgrade for me, I'll wait and see what comes out at the end of the year.
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So where is the price movement already? I guess this is kind of a paper launch and product isn't really available, I assume as they fill the channel we'll see price drops from AMD, hopefully enough to make Nvidia counter.
Either way none of these cards are worth an upgrade for me, I'll wait and see what comes out at the end of the year.

There were more cards and longer availability at launch of the GTX 680, than the radeon 7970 had at all, on both newegg and amazon. It was a hard launch, no paper. Radeon 7970 was paper: reviews weeks in advance of availability.
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Wrong. Techspot cpu scaling articles showed huge bottlenecks wih lastgen cards even. These are even faster.
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Considering that a GTX 570 SLI, which is *slower* than a GTX 680 single, is bottlenecked by a stock 2500K/2600K, yes, I am. This info is readily available on google.

Please provide some proof here! Google it is not enough!

I ran a GTX 570 SLI system with an I7-930 system and I did witness bottlenecks at 1440 x 900 and below.

With this admission, those GTX 680's will hardly run with that 2600K at 4.4Ghz.

You need to punch it up to at least 4.8 Ghz!

All kidding aside, let that 2600k fly!
Edited by Electroneng - 3/22/12 at 3:32pm
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Wtb 4gb..

EVGA have got you covered there.
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Nvidia's strategy recently has been to sit back and let the competitor release and then start engineering a solution! AMD appears to have more Balls, (excuse me moderators as this is not a bad word) then Nvidia.
Both stategies are effective since each has there moment of glory and aggressive sales!

Yeah.. no. I don't think you understand the amount of time it takes to engineer a chip. These chip designs are started more than 3 years ago. 3 months is not anywhere near enough time to make any sort of changes to the architecture that would give them an advantage. The design is locked down nearly a year before release. What they do in the final months is making very tiny changes to core alignments and what have you, so increase fabrication success, fixing any bugs that happen when trying to fabricate the chip.
Nvidia would have no idea how the 7xxx series was going to turn out when making this chip.
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Looks like AMD may have some extra driver work to do. wink.gif
At least the 7970 pulls ahead by quite a bit in the GPGPU department.
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Yeah.. no. I don't think you understand the amount of time it takes to engineer a chip. These chip designs are started more than 3 years ago. 3 months is not anywhere near enough time to make any sort of changes to the architecture that would give them an advantage. The design is locked down nearly a year before release. What they do in the final months is making very tiny changes to core alignments and what have you, so increase fabrication success, fixing any bugs that happen when trying to fabricate the chip.
Nvidia would have no idea how the 7xxx series was going to turn out when making this chip.

Which basically says "Nvidia got lucky this time by releasing a heavily clocked mid-range solution as a high-end one."

Why do I have this feeling that AMD is going to destroy them with their next iteration of the GCN architecture? I mean look at the HD 2900 XT. It eventually evolved into the HD 4870, 5870, 6970, and all the stupidly powerful dual-GPU variants of each. If GCN takes the same track, then Nvidia had better get out GK110 sooner rather than later.

Also, if GK110 is supposed to be amazing, even compared to GK104, why did they have so many problems with GK100? I mean it was so bad that they scrapped the design and promoted their mid-range to high-end. Nvidia didn't even do that with GF100, and that was a disaster.

/speculation
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Looks like AMD may have some extra driver work to do. wink.gif
At least the 7970 pulls ahead by quite a bit in the GPGPU department.

By that tact, so would nvidia, and since their card (gtx 680) is brand new, they'd have more room to improve than the radeon 7970 (which has been in reviewers' hands 3 months and available for 2.5 months to consumers). The gap isn't going away.
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By that tact, so would nvidia, and since their card (gtx 680) is brand new, they'd have more room to improve than the radeon 7970 (which has been in reviewers' hands 3 months and available for 2.5 months to consumers). The gap isn't going away.

Nvidia Drivers a Perfect so you cant improve perfection.
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