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Originally Posted by Kakkoii View Post

Yeah.. no. I don't think you understand the amount of time it takes to engineer a chip. These chip designs are started more than 3 years ago. 3 months is not anywhere near enough time to make any sort of changes to the architecture that would give them an advantage. The design is locked down nearly a year before release. What they do in the final months is making very tiny changes to core alignments and what have you, so increase fabrication success, fixing any bugs that happen when trying to fabricate the chip.
Nvidia would have no idea how the 7xxx series was going to turn out when making this chip.

One news site said 5 years and 1.5 million man hours developing Kepler
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By that tact, so would nvidia, and since their card (gtx 680) is brand new, they'd have more room to improve than the radeon 7970 (which has been in reviewers' hands 3 months and available for 2.5 months to consumers). The gap isn't going away.
I did say "may".
Tahiti is a larger chip... Though that might have something to do with the larger memory controller and whatever GPGPU specific features it may have.
I just don't think the 7970 is running as well as it should.
That's my opinion.
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Nvidia Drivers a Perfect so you cant improve perfection.

LOL I see what you did there
Edited by AddictedGamer93 - 3/22/12 at 3:52pm
    
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Nvidia Drivers a Perfect so you cant improve perfection.

(insert "lolwut" gif animation)

They are great on the stability/gltich front, but there's always room for performance gains!
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Nvidia Drivers a Perfect so you cant improve perfection.

I lol'd

*cough*TDR*cough*
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I lol'd
*cough*TDR*cough*

Rare issue.
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Which basically says "Nvidia got lucky this time by releasing a heavily clocked mid-range solution as a high-end one."
Why do I have this feeling that AMD is going to destroy them with their next iteration of the GCN architecture? I mean look at the HD 2900 XT. It eventually evolved into the HD 4870, 5870, 6970, and all the stupidly powerful dual-GPU variants of each. If GCN takes the same track, then Nvidia had better get out GK110 sooner rather than later.
Also, if GK110 is supposed to be amazing, even compared to GK104, why did they have so many problems with GK100? I mean it was so bad that they scrapped the design and promoted their mid-range to high-end. Nvidia didn't even do that with GF100, and that was a disaster.
/speculation

By that logic, both AMD and Nvidia are always "lucky" whenever they end up being the faster ones. Which is partially true.

And you're looking at this the wrong way. The fact that it is amazing, is why they are promoting their mid-range chip as the high-end right now. Do you not see how crazy it is that Nvidia is even able to do that this round, when looking at the previous two generation's chip sizes? And obviously producing a monolithic sized chip like GK110 on a new node is going going to be tough, so it's coming later in the year.
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man the gtx 680 is just a monster of a videocard. the funny thing is that this was not supposed to be the high end card LOL!

    
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Rare issue.

So rare that you can find it all over the internet. Imagine that.
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