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no vapor chamber... NVIDIA, I am disappoint.
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Is it really so hard to step back and realize NV and AMD both have great top offerings right now and depending on needs can't go wrong with either.

All NV did was to a degree pull a page out of AMD's book, drop size of die, refine die efficiency, and improve TDP at a good price for them. They already had a beautiful working concept and knew what to change and where. I think the release price reflects that as well. NV is preparing to get the step lead back from AMD so to speak as their true top performance chip can be released a bit later since what appears to actually be their mainstream performance designed chip from Kepler is able to compete with AMD's top offerings.


I'm actually amazed at all the taking sides on this generational match up as really with all factors considered they both are in their own league just thumping back and forth. So far at least, as more get them and we get a better feel the picture will become a bit clearer. thumb.gif


Or this really is the top dog design from NV and they are really starting to think about the mobile sector as well and wanting an ability to more diversely use their performance designed archs across the board.? Either way for the power envelope it is might impressive the performance getting squeezed out with the GTX 680, hard to deny that at least. But that isn't to say that HD 7970 is a power hog either so kinda a moot buying point imo for either cards.


Ah new launches are always so much fun. wheee.gif
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link to graph in the article
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they also put 6990 under GTX580, which is kinda Bullcrap
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they also put 6990 under GTX580, which is kinda bullcrap

Hmmmmm...

Anyway, I updated my post on that. Tom's hardware review got the exact same results. The GTX 680 uses more power in 3DMark 11 than the HD 7970. There's no question about it. Under the right circumstances, the GTX 680 uses more power than the HD 7970.

Now that there are 2 reputable hardware review sites confirming this, you guys should question nvidia's posted power consumption numbers. From where I stand, the GTX 680 sometimes uses a little less power than the HD 7970, and other times, it uses a lot more. That's very damning evidence for what the actual power cost of the "turbo" state is in certain programs.
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they also put 6990 under GTX580, which is kinda bullcrap

Yep, according to these guys, this is how the Power Consumption breaks down.

GTX 580 > GTX 680 > HD 6990 > HD 6970 > HD 7970 > HD 7770 > HD 7870 > HD 7950 > HD 7850.

Completely legit.
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Hmmmmm...
Anyway, I updated my post on that. Tom's hardware review got the exact same results. The GTX 680 uses more power in 3DMark 11 than the HD 7970. There's no question about it. Under the right circumstances, the GTX 680 uses more power than the HD 7970.
Now that there are 2 reputable hardware review sites confirming this, you guys should question nvidia's posted power consumption numbers. From where I stand, the GTX 680 sometimes uses a little less power than the HD 7970, and other times, it uses a lot more.

you should check HOCP review..thay said it's something about the turbo-boost effecting the total power draw, if i'm not mistaken..
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i think all the confusion about the performance scaling of OC'd 680s can be partly explained by these posts by SKYMTL
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?277763-%E2%80%9CKepler%E2%80%9D-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-780&p=5072730&viewfull=1#post5072730
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?277763-%E2%80%9CKepler%E2%80%9D-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-780&p=5072748&viewfull=1#post5072748
All the review sites are setting offsets and then counting that as the overclock but according to SKYMTL, there is no way currently to tell what the card actually overclocks to in a game. The potential maximum is the base turbo + offset but it can only reach that if there is head room in the power envelope for the card to clock that high.
Basically in something less intense, a 680 (with the appropriate offset) could OC to ~1200+ MHz whereas in a more intensive game it'll only boost to ~1100 MHz. This is probably why performance scaling looks so poor for an OC'd 680. Even if a site lists the overclock at 1200+ MHz, the actual overclock is on a game by game basis.

This needs to be quoted again... SKYMTL is Hardware Canucks' reviewer, FYI.
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Yep, according to these guys, this is how the Power Consumption breaks down.
GTX 580 > GTX 680 > HD 6990 > HD 6970 > HD 7970 > HD 7770 > HD 7870 > HD 7950 > HD 7850.
Completely legit.

That is pretty weird.

But that doesn't discount the fact that tom's hardware came up with the exact same results for the GTX 680 vs. HD 7970 on power consumption in 3DMark 11. That means their findings are legit.
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you should check HOCP review..thay said it's something about the turbo-boost effecting the total power draw, if i'm not mistaken..

That's exactly right. I actually predicted that before any reviews came out. The turbo-boost feature pulls extra power when it's being used. When it's not being used, power consumption looks amazing. When it is being used, it looks disappointing.
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One area where I'm disappointed with the GTX 680 is the lack of long-idle power savings. AMD really nailed that with HD7000. Although, when I'm not using the computer it will be folding tongue.gif

Some of the power consumption measures I've seen in today's reviews are ridiculously... ridiculous smile.gif I can't wait to see how my GTX 560 Ti and GTX 680 compare regarding power draw. I'm already priming my review, expect it next week hopefully.
    
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Wow. You seriously just called me a troll because I don't agree with certain posts that people make about given products. I believe I have the right to voice that opinion in a non-aggressive fashion, and other people have the right to disagree with me in the same manor.
By the sound of it, based on your PS vita reference, you're trolling me.

People have already explained why your posts are utter fallacies, as well as much of the time completely factually wrong. I suggest you re-read the last several pages. I also have posted to explain to you when you are misunderstanding or outright lying, but you just post back "I have you on ignore!" then a post later respond to me anyway with more tripe.
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Nicely done. You've backed me into a corner in a matter of 2 posts. You should feel very proud of yourself and your incredible contribution to this thread. Well done, really.
But seriously, if that's all you have to add, then by all means, leave this thread. We are discussing video cards here, not who can post the most or who keeps up with what other people say about this topic. If you want to personally attack me, by all means, send me a PM.

Haha, send a PM? You've been spamming like crazy attacking anyone who dares suggest the GTX 680 is a good card.... pot, the kettle is looking at you.
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