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Voltage is set automatically and dynamically as the card increases in frequency. Setting a manual voltage override does not really help you much anymore.
Most cards can do in the +150MHz to +200MHz range. But of course there is no way to say exactly what frequency this is because there are many variables. Power, heat and app all play a role.

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Since these are -KR does that mean we need to purchase lifetime warranty + stepup? If so, how much is it?
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Hey guys,
7970 owner here. I have a question for you 680GTX owners/future owners
We've already seen that the gtx680 can match the 7970 clock for clock and in extreme modded overclocks, but how much does the average gtx overclock on air? Cause it's all well and good to say the 680 beats the 7970 when its clocked 75MHz higher off the bat...
The 7970 can more often than not hit 1250MHz on air. If the gtx680 can do this, then it's the clear winner...otherwise, the 50$ difference might be justified.

From what i've seen the 680 doesn't scale as well with overclocks. Hardware.fr has a bunch of MAX OC benchmarks, with max overclocks of both the 680 and 7970, where they're both pretty much equal and/or 7970 taking the lead in some games. (and vice versa)
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The GTX 680 does seem to OC a bit better than the 7970, but scales less well because of a memory bandwidth bottleneck. It still outperforms the 7970 at stock and overclocked , in the majority of games. It's also less expensive (for now), supports more displays, and has lower power consumption.

I'm still leaning toward the 7970, at least if there is a price drop, because the only really graphically demanding game I play is Crysis Wars (MWLL), and this is one of the few titles that the 7970 is decisively better than the GTX 680s. Also, hashing performance is almost certainly better on the 7970, not because of F64, but because hashing only cares about the number of ALUs and their clock speeds, and the 7970 still has a substantial ALU count advantage.

If I get around to building the SFF gaming system I've always wanted, there will be a GTX 680 in that, for sure.
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is this a worthy upgrade from my 5870 crossfire? I think it finally might be time to upgrade. I would just start with one though. ( dont feel like spending an entire paycheck on videocards)
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The GTX 680 does seem to OC a bit better than the 7970, but scales less well because of a memory bandwidth bottleneck. It still outperforms the 7970 at stock and overclocked , in the majority of games. It's also less expensive (for now), supports more displays, and has lower power consumption.
I'm still leaning toward the 7970, at least if there is a price drop, because the only really graphically demanding game I play is Crysis Wars (MWLL), and this is one of the few titles that the 7970 is decisively better than the GTX 680s. Also, hashing performance is almost certainly better on the 7970, not because of F64, but because hashing only cares about the number of ALUs and their clock speeds, and the 7970 still has a substantial ALU count advantage.
If I get around to building the SFF gaming system I've always wanted, there will be a GTX 680 in that, for sure.

Yeah, the 680 scales worse than the 7970 per mhz past stock from what i'm seeing. This caught me off guard because previous architectures seemed to scale better...I suspect its due to memory bandwidth and/or gpu boost causing limited oc's.

Basically, 680 stock > 7970 stock. 680 max OC == 7970 max OC (with 7970 winning in crysis 2 / metro 2033 / avp, 680 winning skyrim)

Still, there is no reason to get a 7970 until prices drop......the 680 is a better value since the additional 1gb doesn't help that much if you're on a single monitor.
Edited by xoleras - 3/22/12 at 10:09pm
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The GTX 680 does seem to OC a bit better than the 7970, but scales less well because of a memory bandwidth bottleneck. It still outperforms the 7970 at stock and overclocked , in the majority of games. It's also less expensive (for now), supports more displays, and has lower power consumption.
I'm still leaning toward the 7970, at least if there is a price drop, because the only really graphically demanding game I play is Crysis Wars (MWLL), and this is one of the few titles that the 7970 is decisively better than the GTX 680s. Also, hashing performance is almost certainly better on the 7970, not because of F64, but because hashing only cares about the number of ALUs and their clock speeds, and the 7970 still has a substantial ALU count advantage.
If I get around to building the SFF gaming system I've always wanted, there will be a GTX 680 in that, for sure.

Definitely wait for 2-3 more batches of WHQL driver releases before deciding what card is better in a single game (both teams may have improvements). This could be a deal breaker over the next few months. thumb.gif
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is this a worthy upgrade from my 5870 crossfire? I think it finally might be time to upgrade. I would just start with one though. ( dont feel like spending an entire paycheck on videocards)

In my opinion, yes. You would probably get better performance after overclocking but you also get rid of the dual-gpu config. Less power, less heat, less driver issues. After you sell your 5870s, you pretty much paid for the 680.
Edited by Murlocke - 3/22/12 at 10:10pm
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Again, perhaps your overlooking the simplest part of this..!  $499 ..!!



The gtx680 is the single most powerful video card... & it debuted in @ under $500. It is well though-out, efficient & well rounded.

EVERYTHING will now have to react to this new price point..! Right? 



But, over the long-term, this card in 10~11 months will be pushed mid-stream. It is the 8800GT/GTS/GTX all over again.

Even if/when AMD slams Us with the 7990 (which I hope they do, I want), Nvidia can easily drop the GTX 680 to $489 to stem tempted buyers off, or at least offer/entice 4GB cards and boutique 680/85's...etc.



Or, do you only look one day ahead..?

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Will surely keep an eye out and see how the market trends handle this stage that has been set.


Also, you act like this is the first time to happen, fastest single gpu has been released at a $499 price point before. When actually it's just the first time a mainstream chip designed from NV exceeded their own expectations and poised them in a great position for an answer to AMD and to help set the stage for future more potent releases, or at least since like the late 90's for them.

The market will shift a bit but I won't say I agree with the GTX 680 "rewrote the discrete gpu market", however maybe you're right and I'll be eating my words in 11 months when the 680 is being sold for ~$200.00.
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While you here do you mind me asking about the warranty?
Since these are -KR does that mean we need to purchase lifetime warranty + stepup? If so, how much is it?

You can purchase an extended warranty which qualifies you for step up. You have to register within 30 days....

They have a page somewhere detailing it, I was reading it since I just grabbed a pair of evga 680s smile.gif

Edit: not being able to disable gpu boost, i dunno! I'd rather have a 24/7 overclock with manual voltage control
Edited by xoleras - 3/22/12 at 10:10pm
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Has any benchmarkers ran Witcher 2 on ultra WITH ubersampling enabled? They all disable it...

Found a thread wondering the same tongue.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1233017/the-gtx-680-reviews-still-left-me-clueless-about-one-thing/0_50
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I would expect it with the release of the 720 at this point. It won't be Windows 8 because MS would be talking about it already. Really though no developers are even taking advantage of DX11 yet. We have not had a single game made from the ground up for DX11. I'm a little foggy on this but I don't think we've even had a from the ground up DX10 game so devs still have a long way to go with 11.



whAaa?

 

 

The 720 is already being murmered about, & I have Windows 8 and can run Xbox in VDM.

 

 

Secondly, there are many DX11 games out, where have you been...?  <--  dERP!

 

 

 

 


His comment was made in answer to a question pondering the release of DirectX 12. He opined that DX12 wouldn't be released until the Xbox720 hit the market.

Were the insults really necessary?
    
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