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I find this odd, as I've seen at least two reviews where a 680 hit 1.3GHz. 1250-1225MHz seems to be the mean overclock. The whole turbo thing seems like it's a bit wonky right now though.
On another thread I heard people saying the average would be 1150. +/- 50 Mhz.
And then I found the same thing on this thread. But I did see that 1.3Ghz as well.
If it were 10 in 1000 that could do that the odds of you getting not one but 2 are very, very low.
Golden, I thought you said you wouldn't consider crossfiring your one 7970 because of "awful" drivers? So when did you get a second one? Or were they two separate occasions?

Two seperate 79xx cards (a 7970 and 7950) on seperate times.
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It's $50 cheaper, faster, runs cooler, quieter, and consumes less power, plus has physx and proper 3d support. Not sure how that could make it a worse value, /boggle.

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Two seperate 79xx cards (a 7970 and 7950) on seperate times.

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Indeed m3t4lh34d its so obvious you are an amd fanboy out to bash the 680 at every point, and if the 7970 is so amazing why are you making threads asking for help because they dont work propely in bf3 cause of crappy drivers and poor support. thumb.gif

If you actually READ the thread, it was due to my 2500k bottlenecking my 3 7970s, which is the reason why I upgraded to my 3930k rig, and haven't had a SINGLE issue since. Your point is moot. You seem as if you're more of a fanboy to be honest. You defend Nvidia at every turn, or at least you have your panties in a bunch over the fact that us 7970 owners wont simply bow down and let people give the king status to the 680 when it clearly does not deserve it, and clearly is NOT a 100% winner. This is NOT an open and shut case. There are many factors to consider.


And in response to GoldenTiger:

If you're going to stand by your statement that the BULK of 7970s sold will only do 1100mhz on average, you clearly have a lack of knowledge in that department, or you just like spreading false information.

I had just stated that ALL FIVE of my 7970s I've owned would do 1250+, some doing 1350. If that isn't proof enough that your theory is moot, then you're clearly blinded by your fanboyism.

If you had spent ANY time in the 7970 Owners thread at all gathering FACTUAL data, you wouldn't be spouting such nonsense...

Most 7970s will do 1125-1150 on STOCK voltage. Once you bring vCore into the equation, you'll see an additional 200mhz on many cards.

Those that claimed they were stuck at 1125, were stuck there because of software incompatibilities between the CCC and MSI AB, causing BSODs,etc. NOT because they had hit the limit of their hardware.
1125 is the max you can reach via Catalyst Overdrive. When some people attempted to change their vCore or use Afterburner at all with certain drivers and system configs, they ran into issues. Once again, not a limitation of their hardware, but a limitation of software. Most of those people have since fixed their issues by moving back to the RC11 drivers, and the rest of us 7970 owners simply never had the problem at all, and were able to achieve amazing results with our cards.
The people who have had issues overclocking their 7970s are a limited few in comparison to the remainder who have enjoyed their time with these cards.

Drivers mature, and performance improves. Even the "MIGHTY" 680 has horrible SLI scaling at the moment. Those that claimed that AMD was the only one with scaling issues upon release are now silenced by the fact that even though Nvidia has has months to tweak and refine the 680 against the 7970, they have failed to produce adequate scaling in SLI in MANY Blockbuster titles.


I rest my case.
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In addition:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-680-sli-overclock-surround,3162-11.html

I don't call this retaking the performance crown... rolleyes.gif

By the way, that is with the 7970 at a mere 1125mhz, which is what most people attain at stock voltage.
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Ok, so we got a new bit of info.... crossposting this partially from the 680 oc thread:
Doesn't sound bad to me at all thumb.gif.
I agree, in perspective it's actually pretty darn solid for a stock card, stable. There's this pervasive myth out there that all 7970's hit 400mhz oc's all day and night long when it's not the case, most of them are 150-200mhz(at most) bumps for 24/7 stability (for a ~1075-1125mhz operating speed) without making the card into a vacuum cleaner on noise (and even then most of them don't respond to much further voltage bumps, anyway). If we can really expect +150-200 on the GTX 680 as a typical average, that makes clocks of ~1250-1300 generally achievable from a stock of around 1100 max turbo. The OC percentages aren't really going to be that different typically it appears.
We may get a little more from further drivers/tools as well. Assuming the quote above is correct (which I'm sure it's pretty accurate), you're talking an average of say 15% oc (1270 turbo) on a GTX 680 vs. 19% on a Radeon 7970 (1100). With the gtx 680's performance advantage and $50 lower price, it's still a huge contender even for oc'ers using their rigs for gaming/24-7 usage.

You speak as if you've owned multiple 7970s like some of us have. I've owned FIVE 7970s and ALL of them would do 1250, with 2 able to hit 1350, and another able to do 1300, so no that is NOT representative of 'average' overclocks on the 7970. Not to mention mine were on air, and if I watercooled them, I could easily flash the ASUS BIOS onto them and increase the voltage another .01v and probably get closer to 1400mhz.

Don't speak about things if you don't have personal experience with them.

Average of 1100 on the 7970 and 1270 on the 680?! Have you lost it? ROFL, there is no way in hell that 1100mhz is the average for 7970s. 1100 is the average for 7950s yes, but NOT 7970s. People that can't hit at least 1200 are having such issues because of software issues or lack of tweaking ability. The fact that I bought FIVE different cards from seperate locations and ALL of them hit 1250 - 1350 should be indicative of general overclockability. Even the weakest card of mine would do 1140 on stock voltage.

GoldenTiger, you clearly have a Bias towards 680s/Nvidia as others have said and it shines through in your posts. You really shouldn't make it THAT obvious...

You're saying 10 out of 1000 people are able to get nice clocks with 7970s? I guess I'm EXTREMELY lucky then, having 4 out of 5 cards that would OC 400mhz... rolleyes.gif

I just hit 1125mhz on my 7970 while UNDERVOLTING from stock (then run heaven and furmark, finally proceeded to some hours of gaming, all good), so I doubt 1100mhz represents the average for the 7970 as well.

Either that or I'm lucky too. thumb.gif

I still think the 680 is amazing, though.
    
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I just hit 1125mhz on my 7970 while UNDERVOLTING from stock (then run heaven and furmark, finally proceeded to some hours of gaming, all good), so I doubt 1100mhz represents the average for the 7970 as well.
Either that or I'm lucky too. thumb.gif
I still think the 680 is amazing, though.

Yep, the 680 isn't a weak card at all. It's just not the "Killer" of the 7970 like some people make it out to be. If anything it has evened the playing field with the 7970, which is what is NEEDED in the GPU industry to induce price fluctuations which in turn, help us, the consumer. thumb.gif
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holy molly.. my system is garbage now..

Not quite... a 580 is still very respectable. Many people here are still running 5770s, 5870s, 460s, 560s, etc. Your 580 blows all of those out of the water. I would pick up another 580 soon, as they've dropped in price substantially.

I loved the 580 that I owned. I got it up to 950mhz core, and it was a beast in its time.
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Intel i7 3930k C2 @ 4.9 Ghz ASUS Rampage IV Formula Quad SLI GTX TITAN 32GB DDR3 2133 Ripjaws Z CAS9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
256GB x2 Crucial M4 SSD RAID0 Samsung 840 500GB SSD Internal 1TB x 2 External USB 3.0 1.5TB + 2TB + 1TB + 3TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG Bluray Burner Triple thick EK 360 Rad with D5 Vario & Raystor... Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Catleap 27" 2560x1440 LED LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Lycosa Coolermaster Silent Pro Gold 1200W Rosewill Thor v2 Logitech G500 
Audio
Logitech 5.1 Surround + Arctic 5.1 Surround Hea... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500k @4.7ghz Asus P8P67 WS Revolution XFX 7970 Black Edition x3 Tri-Fire 8GB DDR3 Gskill 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
2TB External+128GB M4 SSD+64GB SSD+250GB WD External DVD Multi H212+ HSF Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer GD235HZ 120hz 3d 24" Logitech K120 Corsair TX850 + Thermaltake 850W Antec 900 
MouseAudio
Logitech G500 Logitech 5.1 Surround 
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