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We can so tell you're a "true enthusiasts" for sure.
And I'll have to say, I'm impressed that NV was able to make a chip where every single chip is 1.1v stock voltage and no variances at all that eat into the potential "over-volting" that is being referred to. That truly is remarkable, no variance at all for stock voltage from one gpu chip to another.
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As far as variance I just said as AVERAGE. So by definition that means some higher, some lower. Read anxd stop flaming before posting.
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As far as variance I just said as AVERAGE. So by definition that means some higher, some lower. Read anxd stop flaming before posting.

You said freq reached was average, not voltage needed. wink.gif
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Wrong. He used a 3rd party vrm for his world record not the 1.4v which was just normal modding. Which clearly debunks your speculation. Defending is not the same as correcting rampant misinformation.

Still trying to cover your purchase. No direct voltage control means that Nvidia is hiding something. Also, there is no such thing as "normal modding" All hardware-based mods are clearly not the norm. Otherwise, everyone and their dog would do it. With the extra voltage control, it would eliminate all of the unrest in the GTX 680 overclocking thread. Contrary to what you believe, people are getting more frustrated over there, not less. Also, I have not seen a single stock GTX 680 hit 1.4v yet. Since people cannot modify the voltage manually, it's now even more hit and miss with overclocking than ever before. You're not correcting people. You're just trying to justify your purchase by attempting to put your twist on the information that has been presented so far.
Edited by Mad Pistol - 3/26/12 at 11:26am
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Still trying to cover your purchase. No direct voltage control means that Nvidia is hiding something. Also, there is no such thing as "normal modding" All hardware-based mods are clearly not the norm. Otherwise, everyone and their dog would do it. With the extra voltage control, it would eliminate all of the unrest in the GTX 680 overclocking thread. Contrary to what you believe, people are getting more frustrated over there, not less.
Sometimes I feel that the tiger is a brick wall, and yet I continue to argue with it. Guess that makes me the fool.

No reason to argue, honestly it's more of just being discussed as there are many points of view to have on any single hardware piece.

Nvidia imo did a fine job on GTX 680 but they are keen on getting efficiency on their side, best way to do that is to control as many variables as possible which NV has done a great job at on the GTX 680 it appears so far.

It boils down to whatever one wants to feel about it honestly, and that's why I don't understand the need for so many to try and force their opinions on others as fact.

Like for instance,I feel that anyone who thinks they have 100% voltage control over the GTX 680 is wrong, but to some the little bit of control they feel they have is plenty. And for most it is for what NV wants the 680's specs to be etc.
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Still trying to cover your purchase. No direct voltage control means that Nvidia is hiding something. Also, there is no such thing as "normal modding" All hardware-based mods are clearly not the norm. Otherwise, everyone and their dog would do it. With the extra voltage control, it would eliminate all of the unrest in the GTX 680 overclocking thread. Contrary to what you believe, people are getting more frustrated over there, not less. Also, I have not seen a single stock GTX 680 hit 1.4v yet. Since people cannot modify the voltage manually, it's now even more hit and miss with overclocking than ever before. You're not correcting people. You're just trying to justify your purchase by attempting to put your twist on the information that has been presented so far.

Unlocked voltage would only lead to idiots burning up vrm's,then they would blame it on the cards. Also why does it matter anyway when the card can beat the 7970 without unlocking the voltage?
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Also the dude above me needs to quit. There is no way a week ago you would have been saying it's a good thing the card doesn't have voltage control. No one is saying the card is bad dude give it a rest.[/quote]

How do u know what i wouldv'e said last week? Derp u some knda mind reader? Anyway im done with this thread,sick of trying to prove the blatant truth thumb.gif
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Unlocked voltage would only lead to idiots burning up vrm's,then they would blame it on the cards. Also why does it matter anyway when the card can beat the 7970 without unlocking the voltage?

Because we've already seen that a 7970 model with voltage tweaking can beat a GTX 680 handily. It's just one more thing that AMD can wave in the face of Nvidia. That's a pretty poor business decision.

Again, if nvidia has nothing to hide about the power circuitry, why lock down voltage control? It voids the warranty if you tamper with it, so their butts are covered any way. There's literally no reason to lock voltage control unless it is being used as a form deception to mask the true quality of the components. Remember that the GTX 590 had poor power regulation on it to the point that if you tweaked even remotely close to the limit, the power circuitry would burn out. That's pretty serious, especially when the card is positioned as an enthusiast part. It should have enthusiast levels of power regulation.


It's starting to look more and more like AMD are the ones that are over engineering their parts, and nvidia, even with the best architecture, is coping out on the quality front. That doesn't sit very well with me. I will reiterate again that no one is denying that nvidia has the best architecture on the market. It is obvious that they do. However, it appears they have short changed their customers, and that is inexcusable.
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Because we've already seen that a 7970 model with voltage tweaking can beat a GTX 680 handily. It's just one more thing that AMD can wave in the face of Nvidia. That doesn't sit very well with me. I will reiterate again that no one is denying that nvidia has the best architecture on the market. It is obvious that they do. However, it appears they have short changed their customers, and that is inexcusable.


I'm not sure about the architecture. Why did they fall back to a 256 bit bus that in the end limits the band width? Now they lock voltage control.
Evga no longer having a lifetime warranty. YOu start looking at the big picture, spells CHEAP. IMHO They sold us out. (us= the enthusiast community)
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I'm not sure about the architecture. Why did they fall back to a 256 bit bus that in the end limits the band width? Now they lock voltage control.
Evga no longer having a lifetime warranty. YOu start looking at the big picture, spells CHEAP. IMHO They sold us out. (us= the enthusiast community)

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How many times has it been said that this is GF 114's successor? The 560 Ti had a 256 bit bus as well.

This isn't the 580's successor - don't fall victim to naming games. The original 680 got scrapped, leaving this as the high end part for the 600 series. Because they're down one chip, it got named as the 680. There could be another big card on the way, but it'll be a revision of Kepler - likely the 700 series.

With that said, the price is still quite inflated for a ~300mm² chip. This thing should be selling for around $300 once the 28nm process starts yielding better and as production ramps up.
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So I finally ran 3dmark11 after having stabilized my OC fully on my GTX 680...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1234745/evga-gtx-680-sli-has-arrived-my-overclocking-review/0_40#post_16815838

Result = surprising to me vs. the Radeon 7970 I had.
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