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post #81 of 880
3/22/12 at 8:20am
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wouldn't use word 'destroy':
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Good job cherry-picking a single result out of tons of them. Well done... unfortunately for your post, that is not representative of the bulk of the results.

Here, look at this:

hardocpskyrimaa.gif

This is weird. I did a test on skyrim, everything on max, and I never saw my fps under 60... O.o

skyrim_config.jpg

7970: (limited by vsync... tried to force it off through CCC, no luck):
TESV_2012_03_20_21_52_27_748.jpg



Driver problems maybe? This pic was taken with that damned tree in view... one of the biggest performance hits I know... and my fps is locked higher than the max achieved in the review.
EDIT: stock settings on my 7970
Edited by alexmaia_br - 3/22/12 at 8:25am
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post #82 of 880
3/22/12 at 8:20am
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So why is the GTX 580 faster at compute? The GTX 680 has 3x the cuda cores, yet it gets beaten by the previous flagship single-GPU card in compute performance. It's called a compromise, and Kepler definitely has them. wink.gif

Yeah definitely. GK104 is a gamer GPU without a doubt. And has some compromises when it comes to compute. Mainly no HW scheduling.

But some of the absolutely huge differences we've seen come from DP perf, that's always crippled on GeForce cards.

E: add to that 680 being more crippled than the 580...
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3/22/12 at 8:21am
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So why is the GTX 580 faster at compute? The GTX 680 has 3x the cuda cores, yet it gets beaten by the previous flagship single-GPU card in compute performance. It's called a compromise, and Kepler definitely has them. wink.gif

1) Kepler cores =/= Fermi cores
2) Kepler is limited at 1/24 of the DP precision whereas Fermi was limited to 1/8 of the DP precision. This is an intentional move by Nvidia to sell more Quadro/Tesla cards
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3/22/12 at 8:21am
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You do realize the full drivers for compute aren't even released for the gtx 680 yet and the current ones are missing quite a bit of functionality, right? Comparisons cannot be made yet..

Ohh hope that's true, and all the consumer geforce cards are capped to push the teslas and quadros.
This is a gaming card and that's clearly where the money is, so GPGPU is not going to hurt 99% of sales.

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3/22/12 at 8:21am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

So why is the GTX 580 faster at compute? The GTX 680 has 3x the cuda cores, yet it gets beaten by the previous flagship single-GPU card in compute performance. It's called a compromise, and Kepler definitely has them. wink.gif

Maybe because the GTX 680 has 3x the CUDA cores but has been artificially crippled by 24x while the GTX 580 is crippled by 8x leveling things out -- 7970 is crippled by 4x. A Quadro or Tesla card based on Kepler should be very good business for nVidia. Lower power consuption while getting a lot of boost. Don't forget that the GK104 still has more transistors than GF100/110 through all of the bias rolleyes.gif
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3/22/12 at 8:22am
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This is weird. I did a test on skyrim, everything on max, and I never saw my fps under 60... O.o
skyrim_config.jpg
7970: (limited by vsync... tried to force it off through CCC, no luck):
TESV_2012_03_20_21_52_27_748.jpg
Driver problems maybe?

Uneven test. They also enabled TRSSAA in their test. smile.gif.
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1275mhz 7970's on stock cooling without being a loud vacuum cleaner are exceptionally rare, and most don't hit that with raised voltage on stock from what I've seen even eek.gif. Thanks for the link though.

its MSI 7970 Lightning tho, not stock..so, temp and sound maybe already in check, i think tongue.gif
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3/22/12 at 8:24am
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its MSI 7970 Lightning tho, not stock..so, temp and sound maybe already in check, i think tongue.gif

Ah, true on sound/temp then. However lightning isn't reference... and I thought it was msrp'ing notably higher than the ref 7970's ($600+?).
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They are not far far apart where it Matters.

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Their overclock doesn't seem very impressive. I mean, it's still performing better than anything else but I was hoping it would really shine.
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Lol, are you seriously telling me that you expected a shizload of overclocking power from a card that has already been overclocked 300MHz. Sure 1,006MHz is the new stock clock, but it WAS 706MHz... that is what these GPU's were originally intended for. So I think 1275MHz on stock volts is pretty damn impressive. There's even more room for it with voltage increases. So I believe your point is now a moot one.
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