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They are not far far apart where it Matters.

A drivers update can easily change tides.

AMD is already basically tapped-out on driver improvements compared to the just-launched GTX 680. They've had 3 months from initial reviews (Dec 21st 2011) to improve and have done little. Nvidia has shown they can make significant improvements during the lifespan of their series as evidenced by GTX 5xx cards and their drivers.... and the GTX 680 just launched, much more likely to see meaningful improvements. Additionally, the combined index of so many games like that isn't the whole story: it's a quick, single score that is largely meaningless as to the actual performance in most titles, especially in the cases it matters.
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Lol, are you seriously telling me that you expected a shizload of overclocking power from a card that has already been overclocked 300MHz. Sure 1,006MHz is the new stock clock, but it WAS 706MHz... that is what these GPU's were originally intended for. So I think 1275MHz on stock volts is pretty damn impressive. There's even more room for it with voltage increases. So I believe your point is now a moot one.

We don't know anything as to what the "original" stock clock may or may not have been. The only evidence we've seen was an outdated GPU-Z without gtx 680 support showing that as the speed...........
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Uneven test. They also enabled TRSSAA in their test. smile.gif.

Ah, ok. How do I enable that? I'd like to give it a go! biggrin.gif
    
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Maybe because the GTX 680 has 3x the CUDA cores but has been artificially crippled by 24x while the GTX 580 is crippled by 8x leveling things out -- 7970 is crippled by 4x. A Quadro or Tesla card based on Kepler should be very good business for nVidia. Lower power consuption while getting a lot of boost. Don't forget that the GK104 still has more transistors than GF100/110 through all of the bias rolleyes.gif

Don't think so. GK104 has 2.5billion transistors. GF110 has 3billion. And I could care less how "crippled" the GTX 680 is (crippled based on what? lol) when it comes to the compute performance. It just doesn't perform. That's the compromise. It's a field that nvidia touted as the holy grail of parallell processing and floating point precision, and yet their newest card isn't up to snuff on that front. You can call it a move to sell more quadro/tesla solutions, or whatever you want. The point is that AMD's high-end solution beats it now.


It is what it is: a compromise.
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Bingo. It's a game of push and pull. What nvidia gained in overall gaming performance, they lost in GPGPU performance. Remember, this a field that nvidia themselves actually invented, and now their new cards aren't up to snuff with even the equivalent Fermi variants on this front.
On the plus side, nvidia realized that gaming graphics cards should be about one thing: gaming. That's good. on the negative side, if you were thinking about folding, might want to stick with a previous gen fermi-based solution. wink.gif

AGAIN:

You do realize the full drivers for compute aren't even released for the gtx 680 yet and the current ones are missing quite a bit of functionality, right? Comparisons cannot be made yet.


Proof?

This is a very good gaming card, better than the 7970 in that respect, but all signs are pointing towards the gains in gaming being at the expense of compute. If you are going to spout a claim like that then at least back it with proof.... else people are going to take you for a green fanboy.
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Ah, ok. How do I enable that? I'd like to give it a go! biggrin.gif

It's called "adaptive SSAA" in the catalyst control center.
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Proof?
This is a very good gaming card, better than the 7970 in that respect, but all signs are pointing towards the gains in gaming being at the expense of compute. If you are going to spout a claim like that then at least back it with proof.... else people are going to take you for a green fanboy.

He doesn't provide proof for me either when I ask for it. It seems to be his trademark for performance claims; big words with no substance to back it up. It's part of the reason I blocked his posts. Makes it easier to sift through other people's legitimate points as opposed to his current fanboy garbage.
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AGAIN:
You do realize the full drivers for compute aren't even released for the gtx 680 yet and the current ones are missing quite a bit of functionality, right? Comparisons cannot be made yet.
Proof?
This is a very good gaming card, better than the 7970 in that respect, but all signs are pointing towards the gains in gaming being at the expense of compute. If you are going to spout a claim like that then at least back it with proof.... else people are going to take you for a green fanboy.

Nvidia says it, as do reviewers:



Originally Posted by eric66

but what about rumors that they sacrificed gpgpu part in order to do that is that true ?

SKYMTL (hardware canucks reviewer):
We don't really know since the final unified drivers with optimized GPGPU code aren't due out until sometime in the next two months. Hence why there are several bugs (Design Garage, Folding, etc. don't work right now). This launch is geared solely towards gaming at this point.

Plus, the GK104 won't be the basis of their HPC cards anyways.

Also remember that this is a GK104 so its compute performance should be compared against the GF114. The compute powerhouse will be the card that replaces GF100 / GF110 on the desktop side and the higher end Tesla models on the other.
source: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?277763-“Kepler”-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-780&p=5072592&viewfull=1#post5072592
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Honestly, it looks like that 7970 owners who have a 7970 that could do 1250+ stable can just hold onto their cards. The benchmarks here show that the GTX 680 on 1335 OC (higher than other reviews could do) really trades blows with the 7970 @ 1250 (i think some can run over 1300+), which could yield better results than the GTX 680 @ 1335. 

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We don't know anything as to what the "original" stock clock may or may not have been. The only evidence we've seen was an outdated GPU-Z without gtx 680 support showing that as the speed...........

Well... take into account that the GK104 was supposed to be the 660 or something... they're not gonna release a 660 at 1006MHz, are they? No. So thinking logically, and using common sense, even including early reports... we can come to the conclusion that the original was 706 but it obviously didn't stay like this for very long.
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