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I made a thread yesterday which was difficult to solve since I had so many questions at once. I figured it would be easier if I narrowed it down like this because these are the main components that I need to decide on. For the rest, I can just match to these and buy them used for cheap. This PC will only be used for Diablo 3, Live Streaming PC + Xbox Gameplay, and mild video editing.


CPU:
(Figuring Intel would be decisively better for these applications than AMD so no point in considering anything other than Intel, right?)

I am trying to keep this as cheap as possible while still having plenty of power so that I don't encounter any lag, bottlenecking, etc.

Options that I am looking into:

Core i7 1366 Socket ( 920 / 930 / 940 / 950 / 960 )

Core i7 1155 Socket ( 2600K )

Core i7 1156 Socket ( 860 / 870 / 875K )

Core i5 1156 Socket ( 760 )

Core i5 1155 Socket ( 2500K / 2550K )


Anything I missed or that needs to be removed? I'm aware that the first gen Core CPU's are dead sockets. However, they offer comparable performance to their newer counterparts and I should be able to find them at a FRACTION of the price. Any major reasons to stay away?



GPU:
(Figuring that for these applications the Nvidia Cards w/ CUDA Support would be best?)

400 Series ( 460 / 470 / 480 )

500 Series ( 560 / 560 Ti / 570 )


I'm assuming that I won't need anything ridiculous to max Diablo 3 and from what I understand, the GPU is barely used for live streaming or video editing. Cheaper the better, as always, but want to have enough power, of course.



Capture Card:
(Want something w/ HDMI connection and great quality)

Avermedia Broadcaster HD

Black Magic Intensity Pro

Black Magic Intensity Shuttle


Any of these that are decisively better? Any other options that I left out?



Thanks for the help!
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I have streamed D3 before and with my sig rig I still encounter some lag.

I would say for a CPU you should go with the I7 2600k, that is if you are rendering the stream on the PC you will be playing D3 on. What I have noticed is that people watching streams want to see quality and a smooth stream no matter what the game is.

Firstly, what type of upload do you have through your ISP? For a 720p stream you will need about 1.5-2 mbps upload. That is for around 25fps.

Second, what settings do you want to run D3 on? I can go home tonight and see what type of settings I can run D3 on and still have good FPS while streaming. It was tough to see in beta because they had engine issues that caused stutter during aoe.

Last, what broadcaster are you going to be using? Xsplit or something different?

As for your build, I would go with a used GTX 570 if you are getting close to your budget, that way you have the power for smooth gameplay while streaming, besides the fact that the used market is really good right now due to the 680 release(I actually have a 570 for sale, pm if interested).
 
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My upload speed ranges from 2.5mb/s to 3.5mb/s. I just tested it on Speedtest and it came in at around 3.4. I will be upgrading to a 30 down 6 up package when available in my area this Summer, also.

I would like to max D3, of course. Blizzard games are always relatively easy to Max so I figured it wouldn't take much to max it out. However, having no experience with streaming, I wasn't sure how that would effect everything.

For the broadcaster, I'm honestly not sure if this is what you mean but I will be getting a Cap Card for Xbox gameplay, also, and will be using Twitch.TV to stream. Like I said, I have zero experience w/ streaming so let me know if I'm not giving you the info you need.

For GPU's, I'm just keeping an eye out at the moment. I'm looking for something in the 400 or 500 Series, most likely. The 470's and 480's are selling around $150-$170 which is tempting. A 570 would be nice if I need it but like I said, I'm not sure of how powerful the CPU and GPU need to be for these uses.

Thanks for your help!
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I'll go home tonight and re-install the beta as long as it isn't closed. I don't think I ever maxed the settings while streaming, but I'll give it a shot and get back to you. It will only show what you need for a GPU though, because my CPU is way more than needed.

Your CPU power will depend on what quality you plan on streaming at. The higher quality and FPS you render at, the more powerful CPU you will need. If you plan on doing a 1080p stream through twitch, you should be ok for the xbox stream no problem, but your upload might be pushing it.

I will try to get back to you tonight when I get home and get it all squared away, might want to remind me though redface.gif
 
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what does ur budget look like ??? i meant toatl budget that u have in mind???
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I need to keep it less than $1,000 including the full Rig + Cap Card. If I can go cheaper than that, I'd prefer to. I hadn't really set a budget because usually if you tell yourself you have x amount to spend, you'll find a way to spend every dime of it. lol I figured if I could find a cost effective CPU + GPU that would do the job, then the rest would be easy to fill in inexpensively.

@ rct, I'll try to remember to pm you in a little while. Thanks. smile.gif
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Is there any reason NOT to buy an older gen Core i7? I keep seeing them sold for like $100-$125 for the 920, 930, etc. I mean, they are comparable to the SB i7's in terms of performance at equal clocks, right? Just w/ more heat and power consumption w/o as much overclocking headroom. They will also have the 8mb cache that the 2600K does and hyperthreading.

Great deals to be had on those but not sure if they will work for me.
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Is there any reason NOT to buy an older gen Core i7? I keep seeing them sold for like $100-$125 for the 920, 930, etc. I mean, they are comparable to the SB i7's in terms of performance at equal clocks, right? Just w/ more heat and power consumption w/o as much overclocking headroom. They will also have the 8mb cache that the 2600K does and hyperthreading.
Great deals to be had on those but not sure if they will work for me.

The older I7s are on a different socket, and won't be upgradeable to IB in the future. I think the chipset is different as well...
 
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Yeah, the 1366 is a dead socket, I'm aware of that. However, if it performs well enough I have no need to upgrade. lol I'm not one that has to have the newest technology, just want something that does what I need it to and costs as little as possible. smile.gif
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Yeah, the 1366 is a dead socket, I'm aware of that. However, if it performs well enough I have no need to upgrade. lol I'm not one that has to have the newest technology, just want something that does what I need it to and costs as little as possible. smile.gif

Sounds good, just make sure the performance is the same and go to town!

I get home in about 45m, but I still have to update/dl the client so it might take a bit. I can at least tell you if the 570 will play it maxed. If not, you might have to use the majority of your budget for the 570, or better frown.gif
 
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