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Edited by Martinm210 - 12/8/12 at 6:26pm
    
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Nice, but still to much restriction right martin? I bet its only good for a single block loop system.
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Martin, is the EN version of EK blocks worth it? Copper blocks get smudgy but at least dont corrode the nickel

Sorry about dp, forgot to edit last
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Nice, but still to much restriction right martin? I bet its only good for a single block loop system.

No, not at all. I've always used 1GPM as a very conservative rule of thumb to avoid bubble type problems. The HD by itself is only about half that amount of restriction using a 35X pump, so you could very easily add several blocks without getting below 1GPM particularly if you use parallel bridges on GPU blocks or use the HD's parallel port feature. I thought the XT was getting pretty high in restriction by itself, but the XT rev 2 and now the HS have all cut that down quite a bit. A side benefit of the HD because of it's single flow path nature is that it actually retains a high flow rate across the CPU pin base than blocks that split that with nozzles. Soo...it's actually very possible the HD may perform thermally a bit better in a complex loop than a block with a nozzle and parallel flow paths.
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Martin, is the EN version of EK blocks worth it? Copper blocks get smudgy but at least dont corrode the nickel
Sorry about dp, forgot to edit last

I'm generally more of a fan of non-plated blocks myself regardless of who makes them. Copper can tarnish, but nothing a little ketchup can't fix and since it's a solid metal any material loss from corrosion isn't visible.thumb.gif
    
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Thanks for posting your results Martin, I wondered how the Apogee HD compared to the other blocks on your graphs. I also agree about the HD's mounting system in an LGA 2011 context, that and the updated EK LGA 2011 mounting system are the best when compared to XSPC, Danger Den, etc. Personally I never liked screws sticking up over thumbscrews in LGA 2011 mounts, too prone to catching something.
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Nice review! Perfect timing because I just picked one up from Microcenter for $15 because of a tag mistake and a coupon. I'm hoping it performs better than my rev 1 XT I am currently running.
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Thanks for posting your results Martin, I wondered how the Apogee HD compared to the other blocks on your graphs. I also agree about the HD's mounting system in an LGA 2011 context, that and the updated EK LGA 2011 mounting system are the best when compared to XSPC, Danger Den, etc. Personally I never liked screws sticking up over thumbscrews in LGA 2011 mounts, too prone to catching something.

HD mounting system would be my favorite of all the blocks..it is really well refined.
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Nice review! Perfect timing because I just picked one up from Microcenter for $15 because of a tag mistake and a coupon. I'm hoping it performs better than my rev 1 XT I am currently running.

Wow..that is a steal..nice one!
    
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Just curious Martin, that looks like your own mounting system, how did the Apogee HD perform under Swiftech's own mounting system? While using a standard mounting system across blocks is a good idea and levels the "playing field", I'm more a fan of testing a block using the mounting system the manufacturer intends to be used.
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Just curious Martin, that looks like your own mounting system, how did the Apogee HD perform under Swiftech's own mounting system? While using a standard mounting system across blocks is a good idea and levels the "playing field", I'm more a fan of testing a block using the mounting system the manufacturer intends to be used.

That's correct, after loosing my 2600k system from too much mounting pressure and too many mounts, I'm being a bit more careful with pressure on my new and very expensive 3930 (needs to last me another two years). I was also completely frustrated by my last round variability between mounts and want to improve consistency particulary on systems that don't provide any mounting pressure guidance. I've found a set of hardware that compresses each spring right at a full mounting pressure of 35-40lbs. This is well within any mechanical load limit specs I've been able to find on various platforms. I've seen anywhere from 70lbs to 60lbs with 60 being the limit for 1366.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1366

Considering the LGA2011 platform is even larger in size, I'm assume 50lbs is the maximum so I've targeted 40lbs in my test standard.

With that said, I'm willing to try to test one or two mounts with the as-shipped hardware if and only if it comes with either specific hardware to limit the pressure or specific instructions to ensure precisely the right amount of mounting pressure.

I know that some of the blocks are mounting as high as 80lbs of pressure if you fully compress the included springs. That can cause damage and I'm not willing to go there.

The HD however is not a problem (Guessing it's probably 50lbs and will do some checking on that) with the factory mounting system and I do intend to do a few mounts after getting some more radiator testing done.thumb.gif

Figured I'd start apples to apples on mounting pressure and possibly add the as-shipped mounts to compare on the side if they have a prescribed pressure.
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I agree, there's pro's to both methods - and the obvious cons. I'll be interested to see your tests using the Swiftech mount.

Off-topic I know, but have you tested the EK XTX 240 rads? I'm considering buying one. Thanks.
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