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I thought that we all knew this? tongue.gif

Didn't AMD do this as well?

I thought AMD designed their new architecture, realised they could beat the 580 with a mid range GPU, released the 7970, and are saving the 'big guns' for the 8000 series later this year.

Nvidia then does the same, realising that they could beat the 7970 with their mid range GPU, realising the 680, saving their 'big guns' for the 700 series.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong thumb.gif

Either way this Generation was more of a refresh for both sides, I think that next Gen will be the one to look forward to.

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You are all being milked for the most amount of money possible. Keep buying the 5 to 10% performance increase parts, they love you!

Let me know when they drop a part that gives at least 20% performance boost from the get go. Personally, I will wait for 40% increases unless my current hardware is seriously lacking.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tout View Post

You are all being milked for the most amount of money possible. Keep buying the 5 to 10% performance increase parts, they love you!

NO WAI! Welcome to capitalism biggrin.gif
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680 has some mid-range specs, but three times as many (1534?) SP's just takes the cake and 6GHz GDDR5? Those are high range.
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Originally Posted by bavarianblessed View Post

Sounds about right. Even though it gets the job done it's not like Nvidia to limit their flagship card with a 256-bit memory bus. We all know this card is based on a die shrunk GK114 (GTX 460) so it makes sense that they had planned on it not being the flagship card.

How on earth is it based on a die shrunk GF104/114? The CUDA cores have been *completely* overhauled. Yes, it was intended to replace the 560 ti (or 570?) in the market, but past the 256 memory bus I don't see any connections to GF104/114.

This isn't like shrinking Sandy to Ivy..
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Originally Posted by Rubers View Post

680 has some mid-range specs, but three times as many (1534?) SP's just takes the cake and 6GHz GDDR5? Those are high range.

See, that's the misconception. Those aren't the same CUDA cores that are in Fermi. Hence why they could put ~4 times as many on a similar size die (Using GF104/114 - given the shrink, let's say 2 times as many). They're dumbed down, less complex. More like Stream Processors than old school CUDA cores.
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You are all being milked for the most amount of money possible. Keep buying the 5 to 10% performance increase parts, they love you!
Let me know when they drop a part that gives at least 20% performance boost from the get go. Personally, I will wait for 40% increases unless my current hardware is seriously lacking.

Agreed, 100%.
Edited by pursuinginsanity - 3/24/12 at 1:22pm
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God damn it AMD!

Thanks for launching 7XXX for a obscene price. Thank God I felt it was wrong and waited a bit longer. 3 generations after I think I'll be coming back to nVidia, unless AMD call out their stupid party and price the 7970, 7950, 7870 and 7850 AGGRESSIVELY - I mean rly. If they have the 7870 for $260 I'll buy it.
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this is old new bro!

i've read multiple articles on this like a month or two ago.
some on OCN! doh.gif
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

All of this is marketing.
I bet GK110 is a monolithic double-GK104 die. Nothing more than that.

Highly unlikely.

+50% more functional units all round with a greater portion of the CUDA cores being the FP64 version is much more plausible.
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The current GTX 680 was originally their GK106. And their plan A was to have a 384 bits GPU (True GK104).

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-11-26/133a.jpg

It seems that their GK106 had enough legs to be their their high end part.

It thus replaces a bigger (and probably hot) 384 bit GPU that could have taken them in another Fermi like ride.

Releasing the big chip would have forced them to keep GK106 (Current GTX680) price low. A bummer for a wonderful piece of hardware like that.

Only NVidia win here though.

I call this a great and bold move (Maybe there was no choice). They'll make lot of money (Even though they are a bit late in the party) while avoiding infernal and costly poor yields with a bigger chip.

The turbo gadget is also a genius move since it gives the opportunity to disclose a lower power envelope while staying quiet on the total consumption when turbo is on.

They now have time to cool down their 384 bit mammoth and collect money with an upper mid end GPU priced has a premium part. Who really cares this was supposed to be a Mid-End part ?
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Highly unlikely.
+50% more functional units all round with a greater portion of the CUDA cores being the FP64 version is much more plausible.

I meant it had double the cores, not a double die as such, with all the functions tongue.gif

There would be of no use having double the IO parts, or double the RAMDACs, or double the memory controllers.

Just like AMD's 1st gen GCN design. HD8 series will unleash the true power of GCN.

And then, I'll upgrade.
   
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