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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
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post #101 of 679
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See this is why I think you are being biased. You keep comparing in one direction to give AMD an advantage. The same can be said about GTX 680s, if you take 2 of them and compare them to a single 7970 it will also be around 100% better. Of course the 7990 will dominate a GTX 680, but I can bet that 2x GTX 680 would perform equal or better than the 7990 since dual gpu cards tend to run slower than 2 of their "real" single GPU cards. Right now AMD and NVIDIA are on a very solid playing field and everything is going to be based on price. In my opinion, the 7970 needs to be slightly cheaper than the GTX 680 due to it being less efficient before it becomes attractive again.

I am just comparing them because they will be the two flagships from AMD and Nvidia in the next few weeks.
    
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post #102 of 679
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When it comes to the actual backbone of the card, I think the 7970 has an edge; the 7970 is what I would buy if I wanted "the bar-none, most powerful GPU." Call me crazy, but something about the 680 seems gimmicky to me. When it's really put under stress, I see the two on par at stock. With the kind of overclock I'd be going for on either of them, I believe the 7970 would be the victor when it counts.
That's not to say that I don't believe the 680 is the card to have, right now. The price, performance, and power usage and thermals are impeccable. I don't know how they did it, but I'm truly impressed. That said, I think both cards are meant to be "6970/570 class cards." I won't buy either of them, at that price.
GK110 may well be my first nV card in the last many years though, if AMD doesn't delve into the extreme high-end waters next round.

Well said. Nvidia's TRUE single card king has yet to come out. I have a feeling the gtx 680 was just released to counter the 7970 for the time being. The only equivilent to the GTX 685 would be if sapphire released their 1334 Mhz 7970, which probably clocks even higher proper cooling, but even then i bet Nvidia will have the edge for single card superiority with GK110. But , that said, AMD is ahead 3 months, so their duel graphics solution is about to released any day now. I have a gut feeling this will be renowned KING (in every single benchmark), but will cost close to 900 USD.
    
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post #103 of 679
I don't know if this matters, but Nvidia can focus more on their discrete cards, as well as mobile platforms. AMD has to juggle Bulldozer/Piledriver, Trinity (including all APU's), Radeons, and now the possibility of outfitting the next generation of consoles. All of that, with less money available for research and development.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just assuming this is the case.

But with all of that taken into consideration... I think AMD is pulling off the perfect definition of the "underdog"; they're giving us some amazing products.
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I don't know if this matters, but Nvidia can focus more on their discrete cards, as well as mobile platforms. AMD has to juggle Bulldozer/Piledriver, Trinity (including all APU's), Radeons, and now the possibility of outfitting the next generation of consoles. All of that, with less money available for research and development.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just assuming this is the case.
But with all of that taken into consideration... I think AMD is pulling off the perfect definition of the "underdog"; they're giving us some amazing products.

I believe they are totally seperate departments/teams but I may be wrong.
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post #105 of 679
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Yes +56% performance increase n for GPU with trinity vs llano is insane for one generation. But I am very excited about nvidia's 640m graohics in ultrabooks aswell.
    
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Well said. Nvidia's TRUE single card king has yet to come out. I have a feeling the gtx 680 was just released to counter the 7970 for the time being. The only equivilent to the GTX 685 would be if sapphire released their 1334 Mhz 7970, which probably clocks even higher proper cooling, but even then i bet Nvidia will have the edge for single card superiority with GK110. But , that said, AMD is ahead 3 months, so their duel graphics solution is about to released any day now. I have a gut feeling this will be renowned KING (in every single benchmark), but will cost close to 900 USD.


It's hard to say. I believe GK110 will be the 780, bringing a refresh of the 680 as the 770; this seems to be the most sensible move. Keep in mind, there was a leaked roadmap indicating Tahiti is out for 8xxx's highest performer, and a new architecture is in. This may be AMD's "GK110", if they do decide to start competing in that market for once. It looks like they are this year, but I don't think they are. I'm pretty sure AMD intended to be able to sell the 7970 at $400 and still make a profit.

Either way, 7xx and 8xxx are when I'll be dropping my coin. 2560x1440 triple monitor setup, here I come.

Edit: As a side note, if nV can release a 690 before 8xxx, it'll probably be given the performance crown in the eyes of most. The 7990 will be stock-clocked at 850MHz, and I'm sure the 690 will have no issues achieving great power consumption, thermals, and high clocks, considering what we're seeing of the 680.
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the 8970 will blow everything out of the water if the trend in performance increase continues, as it has with AMD from the 4890 - 5870 - 6970 - 7970. Nvidia has started good but has had hiccups, from GTX 285 to GTX 480 to GTX 580 to GTX 680. The last three are somewhat comparable in performance (within ~60%), whle the 7970 is more than 300% the performance of a 4890.
    
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post #108 of 679
Nivdia has some cool features if it were my choice today i'd buy the 680
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Idk what I want personally. Id love to rock Nvidia for a generation or two, but AMD cards have always been a pleasant experience. Its hard leaving the team you started out on.
Edited by AddictedGamer93 - 3/23/12 at 12:44am
    
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good to see my investment wasn't a total loss biggrin.gif
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