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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
  • 37% (130)
    AMD 7970
  • 62% (214)
    GTX 680
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post #241 of 679
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post

I went from 1080p with the GTX 580 to 1600p with the 7970 (no in betweens). And even with the higher resolution, the 7970 is still a good bit faster than my 580 was at a lower resolution. I absolutely couldn't be happier.
The 680 is a great card at a great price right now, but I see no reason to jump from the 7970 when the cards literally trade blows with each other...especially since I've had my card since January (as have a lot of us 7970 owners). If AMD puts a price drop on the 7970, then honestly either card is a great choice right now (or if you can pick a 7970 up used for cheaper...even better)

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Thanks for the tip. Yea, I'm not going to complain about my purchases. The way i see it is there is not that much of a performace difference between the 2 to justifiy my purchasing some 680's. Now if the 680 beat the 7970 by like 100 fps, I would of jumped on it in a hearbeat lol.

If it were even a 10% performance increase after both cards were overclocked...I would've jumped on one in a heartbeat. I love having the latest tech I can afford. But from what I've seen...after both cards are overclocked, the differences are "meh" at best. So I'll just take the money I'd save, since I'd have to sell my 7970 at a loss and put money towards the 680.....and use that money for a better cooler, and enjoy even more performance, with less noise.
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post #242 of 679
AMD builds a better architecture that does more work per clock.

Nvidia builds better drivers that make real-world performance in games shine.

At least that's how I see it.
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post #243 of 679
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Originally Posted by Mootsfox View Post

AMD builds a better architecture that does more work per clock.
Nvidia builds better drivers that make real-world performance in games shine.
At least that's how I see it.

I have to agree with this. If AMD would spend half as much time as Nvidia does on driver development, AMD could go places.
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post #244 of 679
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

I want to see clock per clock benchmarks, theyre not even out there.. im surprised.
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

In all the reviews, we are actually seeing 1110 Mhz (Turbo) GTX 680s against 925 Mhz 7970s, yet these cards both overclock to about the same Ghz value. (Lets see 1300/1800 vs 1300/1800, and you would notice Nvidia lags behind). Nvidia has the stock crown, while AMD has the overclock crown because its overclocking performance and clock gap is highest. There is no obvious winner in my opinion, yes the GTX 680 is newer, but is it enough? And is it too late?
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

the 8970 will blow everything out of the water if the trend in performance increase continues, as it has with AMD from the 4890 - 5870 - 6970 - 7970. Nvidia has started good but has had hiccups, from GTX 285 to GTX 480 to GTX 580 to GTX 680. The last three are somewhat comparable in performance (within ~60%), whle the 7970 is more than 300% the performance of a 4890.
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

this small 5-10% difference in performance when compared to the 7970 (925 mhz) is only justified by the 680's 15-20% (1058-1110) stock turbo clock advantage

Since you are so concerned with clock for clock performance, what about CORE for CORE performance, as well as who has the better overall architecture?

Let's analyze this further.

AMD 7970 key specs:

Steam Processors: 2048
Texture Units: 128
ROP's: 32
Memory Bus Width: 384 bit
Memory: 3GB
FP64: 1/4
Transistor Count: 4.31B
Price: $549

GTX 680 key specs:

Steam Processors: 1536
Texture Units: 128
ROP's: 32
Memory Bus Width: 256 bit
Memory: 2GB
FP64: 1/24 FP32
Transistor Count: 3.5B
Price: $499

It's pretty clear who has the better architecture, considering the 680 has mainstream specs ( for Nvidia standards), plus inferior specs compared to the 7970 in almost every way ( 25% more stream processors, 384 bit, 3GB Memory, 6x FP, $50 more ), yet the 680 manages to...

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We're also seeing launch drivers vs 2-3 month old drivers for the 7970 being compared.

One last thing, for those who will argue that THIS is Nvidia's flagship CHIP, you may want to review these specs.

Which card does the 680 specs have more in common with, a GTX 560 or GTX 580?

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post #245 of 679
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Where did you manage to find a 7970 for $679, the cheapest I found was on Price spy for $849.00

Techworld has one left for $731.58 including shipping.
Price spy hasnt updated for the price changes but its next crawl of the websites will update it.
And if you go though PCBLADE they have it for $679. Computer1 has run out of stock but had them at $680
Whole sales have it even cheaper but they dont sell to public normally.

If your quick you could get a 7950 for $296 http://www.techworld.co.nz/sapphire-radeon-hd7950-gddr5-p-40469.html
1 left in stock.

Dont always go off pricespy, There prices only refresh every few days so it pays to check the stores your self.
post #246 of 679
Seen here

http://www.google.com.sa/search?q=FX-8150+polyzp&hl=en&safe=active&prmd=ivns&ei=uIhtT_-bEMen4gSi3Nm_Ag&start=0&sa=N&biw=1920&bih=910

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Originally Posted by Arizonian View Post

Disabled PhysX eye candy for the AMD card. Hell yeah that was going to beat it in this instance.
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For anyone glancing at the results on this page it would seem like a clear win for AMD however the tables don't tell the full story. Arkham City takes full advantage of NVIDIA PhysX to enhance image quality, including advanced cloth, paper and particle effects. These really do add to the realism and immersiveness of the game and the extra work required does drop performance. That said we can disable the technology if we wish and that brings the GTX 680 up towards the reference 7970 scores in this game.
Have you been reading all the benchmarks? Your picking only benches were AMD wins, we're not fools here dude.....tongue.gif
So let's look at Multiple monitors with insane resolution and where the 680 has 1GB less than the 7970. Also an area that Nvidia is new to and AMD has been the sole GPU to accomplish this for years. Let's also take the benches from HardOCP an AMD favorite website. Should kill the 680 right?
Most popular FPS game out there right now.
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Here is the same Batman Arkam City game and both run without PhysX to be fair to AMD where it N/A.
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Here is an AMD sponsered game even. This I couldn't believe because it wasn't as comparable like the other two.
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This game AMD has a slight edge and has across all the benches I've seen from other review sites.
368
Your trying to prove this entire thread your point is failed. Most of us here have stated it OVER and OVER that both are great cards and this time it's not as easy as who's 'king of the hill'.
So we fall back on the other features and pricing to really determine the winner.
Nvidia - Multiple moinitors comparably so AMD can't claim this arena this round anylonger, Adaptive V-sync (better addressed micro-stutter than ever before) something AMD has never addressed, lower power consumption something AMD used to win every series round too, unrivaled 3D Vision an area where Nvidia excelled even further from last year where AMD wasn't even close to doing it right, and one of the most important points = less expensive price / performance arena where AMD used to also claim year after year and no longer the case. Should they drop price then I'd say it's a dead even match with no winner.
Obviously our opinions on which is better may vary and to be honest there's no loser this round because we've got some amazing performance at stock or over clocked than previous gen cards easily. You poll will be just a popularity contest. Trying to persuade us to think differnetly may work for your less tech savvy friends but not the majority of OCN members. wink.gif

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I think you got a drives and cpu problem with the nvidia card. as in cpu not strong enough and drivers still in beta mode to say.
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If it were even a 10% performance increase after both cards were overclocked...I would've jumped on one in a heartbeat. I love having the latest tech I can afford. But from what I've seen...after both cards are overclocked, the differences are "meh" at best. So I'll just take the money I'd save, since I'd have to sell my 7970 at a loss and put money towards the 680.....and use that money for a better cooler, and enjoy even more performance, with less noise.

I agree with this. I was considering one but the performance at eyefinity resolutions is the same considering that the stock clocks for a 680 are 15% higher than my 7970. All I have to do is OC a bit and that gap increases. I do hope that this causes a price war though as I'd love a second 7970 but am waiting till summer to see what Tenerife XT is all about along with GK110. Whichever is better at that point will probably be my next upgrade.

For some reason though, I can see multiple cards being blasted out from both companies this year as they try and tip toe over the previous top card to milk our money XD.
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What's annoying is that neither is the obvious winner. AMD wins in games that are optimized for AMD and nVidia wins in games that are optimized more for nVidia. As of right now there is no clear winner, which is how it should be imo. As annoying as it is to not really be able to have "the best", competition is good for prices and future cards.
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What's annoying is that neither is the obvious winner. AMD wins in games that are optimized for AMD and nVidia wins in games that are optimized more for nVidia. As of right now there is no clear winner, which is how it should be imo. As annoying as it is to not really be able to have "the best", competition is good for prices and future cards.

Good point. +rep
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