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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
  • 37% (130)
    AMD 7970
  • 62% (214)
    GTX 680
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I had a few bad versions of CCC when i had a 5870 close to two years ago. It would not hold its overclock right, nor did it want to downclock when idle. So i sold it and used GTX 295, all my problems went away.
post #282 of 679
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Just like AMD needs turbo to save their ass in CPUs, Nvidia needs turbo to save their ass in GPUs. The hype behind the GTX 680 is not justified by their overclocking performance, just like some people would think the hype behind AMD bulldozer is not justified by their overclocking performance. Hence why both companies released at very competative pricing, which neither would have to do if their CPU or GPU was easily crowned the best.

This whole thread you've been hyping up the 7970, and putting down the 680, yet the 680 is the faster card? Also, there's one problem with your Bulldozer analogy, Bulldozer is slower in almost everything, not to mention power hungry, and well, you own one so you should know how bad it is compared to Intel's offerings.

The 680 on the other hand is faster, or at the very least trades blows with the 7970 and is power efficient.

You claim that the 7970 was released at competitive pricing, when in fact it's over priced.

The 680 is 30% faster than the 580, and Nvidia released it at the exact same price as the 580. AMD on the other hand released the 7970 $200 over the price of the 6970.

Currently the 680 is about 10% faster, and priced 10% lower than the 7970, and it does it with 25% less cores.
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Where did i imply the 7970 was released with competative pricing? If anything i was implying that because it was so ahead of the pack, AMD stamped a grossly high price on it, something Nvidia would most definitly do if their gtx 680 was truly 40% faster than AMD's offerings.

I havent been putting down the gtx 680, it is tied for the best single GPU out there, and is truly a spectacular card at a spectacular price. At current pricing, Nvidia has the edge, but if prices were identical or higher than the 7970 (as expected), its not so clear any more, because there is no true performance champion.
    
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680 wins on every level. Power consumption, performance, thermals, noise, drivers. It's not even a question.

I appreciate this thread either way though, as I was not aware that OCN was 36% AMD fanboy.
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680 wins on every level. Power consumption, performance, thermals, noise, drivers. It's not even a question.
I appreciate this thread either way though, as I was not aware that OCN was 36% AMD fanboy.

It doesn't win on overclocked performance or thermals that much we know for sure. If you read reviews you would know this. Or you could check out the user made threads on OCN. Also Power consumption increases at a higher rate when you push the clock up on the 680 then the 7970. This is confirmed on Beyond3d. Essentially they are the same card in terms of performance and power consumption for your average enthusaist.
    
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@Celeras, not everyone play low resolution and have no idea about overclocking like you wink.gif
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-680-sli-overclock-surround,3162-11.html

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there you go guys!!! I think that says it all!
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^^ According to this graph above, the GTX 680 is good for horrible game like WoW. And the HD 7970 is much better for Good games like Battlefield 3 and Metro 2033. And to that guy saying that the GTX 680 is more efficient, thats a load of cow pat, It uses more power than the 7970 which is another classic Nvidia tactic, to make more power and heat to match AMD Performance.

I think the True king is the AMD HD 7970
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Just like AMD needs turbo to save their ass in CPUs, Nvidia needs turbo to save their ass in GPUs. The hype behind the GTX 680 is not justified by their overclocking performance, just like some people would think the hype behind AMD bulldozer is not justified by their overclocking performance. Hence why both companies released at very competative pricing, which neither would have to do if their CPU or GPU was easily crowned the best.

Do you know what you even sound like half the time?

Nvidia's dynamic over clocking with adaptive v-sync is addressing micro-stutter for smoother frame rates in 2D and 3D gaming. At the same time increasing power efficiency by doing so only being used during intense moments in gaming.

Nvidia has always taken micro stutter more proactively at the expense of less scalability in SLI to maintain a higher level of quality.

They don't 'need' it as your suggesting to be a good perfomance card, just looking innovativley at improving GPU's as we know them today. Don't be surprised if AMD takes some notes and comes up with thier own version of it soon.

Your post poll telling you something yet?

Only thing we've yet to learn as OCN members are over clocking them right now is if the DO (Dynamic Overclocking) is going to get in the way of us manually over clocking. If it does then we'll need to see a way around it should it inhibit us in some way. Too early to tell as most of us who ordered on launch day won't see our cards until Monday. So any 'dogging' your doing regarding DO should be on hold because if it's not an obstacle you will have lost credibility when you speak moving foward. Which IMO you've already crossed that bridge a few posts into this thread.
     
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I am confident that if Nvidia didnt have a turbo like implementation, this card would not be up to standard, nor reach people's expectations in performance, actually prooving Nvidia took much longer to create a mediocre card.

Heat/Temperature actually passes the 7970 when you overclock both puppies.

That Toms review still compares a higher clocked 680 (100 mhz advantage) vs a lower clocked 7970.
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