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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
  • 37% (130)
    AMD 7970
  • 62% (214)
    GTX 680
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post #291 of 679
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Originally Posted by snipekill2445 View Post

^^ According to this graph above, the GTX 680 is good for horrible game like WoW. And the HD 7970 is much better for Good games like Battlefield 3 and Metro 2033. And to that guy saying that the GTX 680 is more efficient, thats a load of cow pat, It uses more power than the 7970 which is another classic Nvidia tactic, to make more power and heat to match AMD Performance.
I think the True king is the AMD HD 7970

Funny... According to this graph it loses big time in BF3 when stock clocks are compared, which is how the average consumer will use the card.

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Edit: Also wait 3 months and we'll see how the GTX680 does when Nvidia has had more time to revise their drivers like AMD. Coming out of the gate the 7970 drivers were complete crap.
Edited by Phantom_Dave - 3/24/12 at 4:49pm
post #292 of 679
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Originally Posted by Arizonian View Post

Do you know what you even sound like half the time?

Nvidia's dynamic over clocking with adaptive v-sync is addressing micro-stutter for smoother frame rates in 2D and 3D gaming. At the same time increasing power efficiency by doing so only being used during intense moments in gaming.
Nvidia has always taken micro stutter more proactively at the expense of less scalability in SLI to maintain a higher level of quality.
They don't 'need' it as your suggesting to be a good perfomance card, just looking innovativley at improving GPU's as we know them today. Don't be surprised if AMD takes some notes and comes up with thier own version of it soon.

Your post poll telling you something yet?
Only thing we've yet to learn as OCN members are over clocking them right now is if the DO (Dynamic Overclocking) is going to get in the way of us manually over clocking. If it does then we'll need to see a way around it should it inhibit us in some way. Too early to tell as most of us who ordered on launch day won't see our cards until Monday. So any 'dogging' your doing regarding DO should be on hold because if it's not an obstacle you will have lost credibility when you speak moving foward. Which IMO you've already crossed that bridge a few posts into this thread.

how does adaptive v-sync reduce microstutter? What about input lag?
    
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post #293 of 679
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

I am confident that if Nvidia didnt have a turbo like implementation, this card would not be up to standard, nor reach people's expectations in performance, actually prooving Nvidia took much longer to create a mediocre card.

Horse hockey pucks. Regardless of how they are acheiving it - it's working and that's bottom line.

Just like AMD all these years not addressing micro stutter in crossfire as well as Nvidia has. AMD is getting better scalability because of this. Regardless the end result is they have better scaling ability is all everyone looks at and touts.

Your logic is failed regarding DO.

Just like everyone was saying Nvidia was cheating with tessellation all these years and AMD finally addressed it with the 7000 series that actually now does well comparably. The problem before wasn't Nvidia cheating as was being claimed by AMD users more than it was AMD not performing as well on a hardware level. It's easier to lay blame then fix the problem and make it work. Kudos for AMD for finally coming to the tessellation table and giving users a good card in that aspect.

Another analogy: Would Intel be taking a back seat to AMD's CPU's if Intel didn't have turbo boost technology? Regardless how it's being accomplished performance at the end of the day is all the end users care about. No matter how the company gets there if it works and their ahead, it's a win.
     
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post #294 of 679
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how does adaptive v-sync reduce microstutter? What about input lag?

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It directly affects the smoothness of a game.
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With Adaptive VSYNC turned on your games will maximize the framerates to your monitors refresh rate, therefore you won't experience tearing. However, if your framerate drops below the refresh rate VSYNC will kick into real-time FPS mode and deliver the real-time FPS being delivered rather than instantly drop to 30 FPS. You won't experience tearing below your refresh rate, and you also won't get large drops in framerate. It is the best of both worlds, you get to have your no tearing, and still experience the best possible performance in games. This is a feature that directly affects your gameplay experience in a positive way.
     
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I don't think anybody denied nvidia being better at tess. People started calling it cheating when they put so much tess in games certain twimtbp games that it didn't improve visual fidelity, it just made AMD cards look worse. Whether or not that actually happened, I don't know.
 
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post #296 of 679
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I'm no fan boy for either camp and came from a GTX 590 to 2x 7970s. The only reason being that I wanted more horsepower and there was no other choice at the time.
I had every intention of switching to the GTX 680 upon release and even jumped the gun and advertised my cards.
However after seeing the genuine benchmarks I can honestly say that it appears these cards are as close to identical in terms of power as I think you can get.
They're both exceptional. However I don't think you can ignore the fact that the 680 is clocked at 1050+ while the 7970 is at 925 so when the 680 is 'just edging the 7970' that is why!
At the end of the day it really comes down to the performance of each card when they're completely maxed out if you care that much about a victor.

Sounds like a huge waste of money... If you WAS planning on going 680 why bother buying 2x 7970 if you had a 590 that could have held up until the 690's? Lol.
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Funny... According to this graph it loses big time in BF3 when stock clocks are compared, which is how the average consumer will use the card.
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Edit: Also wait 3 months and we'll see how the GTX680 does when Nvidia has had more time to revise their drivers like AMD. Coming out of the gate the 7970 drivers were complete crap.

Let's face it, if your going to buy a $500.00 graphics card and don't overclock it, your an idiot.

That would be like buying a Water loop, and then not overclocking.
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post #298 of 679
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Let's face it, if your going to buy a $500.00 graphics card and don't overclock it, your an idiot.
That would be like buying a Water loop, and then not overclocking.

I guess I'm an idiot then. I paid $580 for mine and it's not OC. It's not the same as buying a water loop... Most people don't overclock anything they own and most people don't have a H2O cooling system.

I love how people resort to name calling when they know they are losing... If I'm an idiot then what does that make you? Tool...
post #299 of 679
Like i said before and I'll say it again. Reason I' am a nvidia fanboi it's not because there green and awesome and have great drivers it's because of PHYS X. That's where AMD fails in my eyes and it's not because of drivers because i own a old crappy 5770 in my everyday desktop, and never had a driver problem. I'll waiting on 4GB 680 hydro copper classified's.
    
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My friend must be an idiot, because he paid over 1000 dollars for a waterloop system, to find his 2600k not overclocking any higher than it did with a 39 dollar air cooler. Hes basically facing the fact that sandy bridge has a cold bug, and now just runs everything at stock. ^^

But you are correct, with high end cards people are generally intrested in OC performance, not stock. This is where the battle becomes dangerously close, as of the latest drivers.
    
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