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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
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    AMD 7970
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Originally Posted by snipekill2445 View Post

^^ According to this graph above, the GTX 680 is good for horrible game like WoW. And the HD 7970 is much better for Good games like Battlefield 3 and Metro 2033. And to that guy saying that the GTX 680 is more efficient, thats a load of cow pat, It uses more power than the 7970 which is another classic Nvidia tactic, to make more power and heat to match AMD Performance.
I think the True king is the AMD HD 7970
It's naive to assume people don't play "bad" games like WoW and only play "good" games like BF3.
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Originally Posted by Phantom_Dave View Post

Funny... According to this graph it loses big time in BF3 when stock clocks are compared, which is how the average consumer will use the card.
I'm willing to wager that a majority of people buying enthusiast level cards will overclock them.
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From what I've seen briefly, a lot of the retail cards tend to top out around 1150MHz with the +50 boost (so 1200 turbo).
That's disappointing. Anand's card couldn't reach the top step of 1110Mhz, well, not at that voltage.
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From what I've seen briefly, a lot of the retail cards tend to top out around 1150MHz with the +50 boost (so 1200 turbo).

From what I've seen around here, most of the 7970 cards can hit ~1250. If I am not mistaken, the 7970 is better clock for clock, and overclocking scales better. Does that mean that the HD 7970 is still the proper enthusiast choice? It would seem that way to me. Until GK110 comes out...
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Not sure. I just tested with kcuestag and his new GTX 680. He was at 1260 core and +500 memory (whatever that is). I was at 1200 / 1600 stock volts and +20%. We tied in Heaven, both had 53.1 FPS. He beat me by a good 5 FPS at stock (I had 42, he had 47).

So by that ONE test, clock for clock the 7970 wins in Heaven. But that's just one test. Both cards were at stock volts / max overclock. So its hard to say.

He's claiming the 680 won because it was less of an overclock (+175 on his vs. +275 on mine). But that's because the 680 is clocked higher at stock. We both did max overclock on stock volts, so if you ask me, that's a fair comparison.
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Not sure. I just tested with kcuestag and his new GTX 680. He was at 1260 core and +500 memory (whatever that is). I was at 1200 / 1600 stock volts and +20%. We tied in Heaven, both had 53.1 FPS. He beat me by a good 5 FPS at stock (I had 42, he had 47).
So by that ONE test, clock for clock the 7970 wins in Heaven. But that's just one test. Both cards were at stock volts / max overclock. So its hard to say.

Well that's the way I like it, neck and neck. The GTX 680's superior stock performance should drop the price of the 7970 below it (I hope). That means that the card that is just as good when the clock speed is cranked (maybe even better rolleyes.gif ) will be cheaper. Kind of like 570 vs. 6970 type of thing going on.
 
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i've had nVidia cards and Radeons, Radeons scaled very well in my experience my 460 scaled very well against it's competitor the 6850/70. in multi GPU forms tho the Radeons had a near perfect scaling in alot games and applications in tho the tessellation gave negative scaling to the radeons which sucked frown.gif but still great cards for their price. even if the 7970 is alittle bit more pricey but imo it's well worth the little extra for that scaling factor the OP has shown which is great. smile.gif

i like how these tests are both show weakness and strengths, it all comes down to the buyer which is win/win ethier way. biggrin.gif
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i've had nVidia cards and Radeons, Radeons scaled very well in my experience my 460 scaled very well against it's competitor the 6850/70. in multi GPU forms tho the Radeons had a near perfect scaling in alot games and applications in tho the tessellation gave negative scaling to the radeons which sucked frown.gif but still great cards for their price. even if the 7970 is alittle bit more pricey but imo it's well worth the little extra for that scaling factor the OP has shown which is great. smile.gif
i like how these tests are both show weakness and strengths, it all comes down to the buyer which is win/win ethier way. biggrin.gif


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On topic...
So long as the 680 is cheaper, 680>7970.
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i've had nVidia cards and Radeons, Radeons scaled very well in my experience my 460 scaled very well against it's competitor the 6850/70. in multi GPU forms tho the Radeons had a near perfect scaling in alot games and applications in tho the tessellation gave negative scaling to the radeons which sucked frown.gif but still great cards for their price. even if the 7970 is alittle bit more pricey but imo it's well worth the little extra for that scaling factor the OP has shown which is great. smile.gif
i like how these tests are both show weakness and strengths, it all comes down to the buyer which is win/win ethier way. biggrin.gif


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On topic...
So long as the 680 is cheaper, 680>7970.

Honestly, whichever card is cheaper is the winner. If you can buy a used 7970 (with warranty obviously) for less, then the 7970 wins. It all boils down to how much each card costs, as they perform neck and neck after overclocks.
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I agreed that the 680 is better, but where is the promised total debacle?
Nvidia fanboy said that all 7970 owners would to make suicides (I mean thought figuratively) , because make wrong choice of GPU. But in the end the difference is very small.
think that there are few who regrets his choice. In my opinion, +50 dollars on 500 dollars worth of GPU is not so much.
Sorry my english!
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I agreed that the 680 is better, but where is the promised total debacle?
Nvidia fanboy said that all 7970 owners would to make suicides, because make wrong choice of GPU. But in the end the difference is very small.
think that there are few who regrets his choice. In my opinion, +50 dollars on 500 dollars worth of GPU is not so much.
Sorry my english!

Say what? Nvidia fanboys said 7970 owners would commit suicide for choosing the wrong GPU? kookoo.gif

If you have a quote, please share, I'd love to see who'd say something ridiculous like that.

It's just a graphics card, and just money at the end of the day, why would someone commit suicide over spending $550? That's just ridiculous. Even if the 680 was 100% faster and you bought a 7970, you could simply sell it, cut your losses, and switch.
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Not sure. I just tested with kcuestag and his new GTX 680. He was at 1260 core and +500 memory (whatever that is). I was at 1200 / 1600 stock volts and +20%. We tied in Heaven, both had 53.1 FPS. He beat me by a good 5 FPS at stock (I had 42, he had 47).
So by that ONE test, clock for clock the 7970 wins in Heaven. But that's just one test. Both cards were at stock volts / max overclock. So its hard to say.
He's claiming the 680 won because it was less of an overclock (+175 on his vs. +275 on mine). But that's because the 680 is clocked higher at stock. We both did max overclock on stock volts, so if you ask me, that's a fair comparison.

I've been talking with him too and so far his GPU is the best overclocker on OCN (that we've came across).. So your 7970 is winning against most 680s. He is able to get his core 50MHz higher than mine, and his RAM nearly 100MHz higher.

EDIT: I just ran heaven a few minutes ago on max settings and got 53.0FPS.. so it doesn't seem to scale very well with overclocks after a certain point (at least in heaven).

If we get voltage control the 680 will take the lead.. but according to EVGAJacob voltage control is not going to happen (at least for reference 680s). Since the BIOS are also digitally signed, no way to force voltage with a BIOS flash either. We would have to pencil mod, or physically mod in order to increase it. =/
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Say what? Nvidia fanboys said 7970 owners would commit suicide for choosing the wrong GPU? kookoo.gif
If you have a quote, please share, I'd love to see who'd say something ridiculous like that.
It's just a graphics card, and just money at the end of the day, why would someone commit suicide over spending $550? That's just ridiculous. Even if the 680 was 100% faster and you bought a 7970, you could simply sell it, cut your losses, and switch.

sorry suicide I thought figuratively
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