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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
  • 37% (130)
    AMD 7970
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    GTX 680
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post #321 of 679
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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post

If you have a quote, please share, I'd love to see who'd say something ridiculous like that.

Chinese make the best power supplies in the world, especially the ones with no name and no 80+ rating. lachen.gif
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post #322 of 679
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AMD tying nvidia in heaven, a notoriously nvidia favoured benchmark, while overclocked at same clock just shows you that there is no clear winner..thumb.gif

Only because the gtx 680 is cheaper at the moment , it has the advantage.
    
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post #323 of 679
fail thread is fail.

Kingpin already managed ~15200 with a GTX 680 @ 1900 MHz
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

I want to see clock per clock benchmarks, theyre not even out there.. im surprised.

Who cares about clock for clock?
Of course different architectures will perform differently with same clocks and thats why Kepler as an arcitecture that relies on high clocks will also OC higher under extreme cooling than AMDs card.

GCN architecture is a little bit faster if compared to Kepler at exact same clocks indeed, but how is that relevant at all?

Sorry but this just looks like a troll thread tongue.gif
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post #324 of 679
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I'm willing to wager that a majority of people buying enthusiast level cards will overclock them.

You don't gamble much I take it? Most people who spend that much money on a GPU aren't going to want to risk killing it. Maybe a majority of the peeps on this forum would, but not the majority of the consumer market. The majority of the consumer market wouldn't even know how to overclock it. They just buy it because it's among the best. Just like people who buy Alienware... it's the best you can get without having to build your own (or at least the most well known). Obviously there's a market for Alienware or else it wouldn't be sold anymore.

That being said, even my card is not overclocked beyond the MSI overclock. I OCed it at first, but reverted back to stock after a very short while. The extra heat, power consumption, and reduced life of the GPU wasn't worth the marginal gain I got from OCing it to me. "Oh WOW, 90 fps instead of 80 fps..." I'd rather just tune the settings down a tad and save the environment as well as money on my electric bill.
post #325 of 679
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3dmark 11 world record doesnt mean it is the better performing card overall at maximum air 24/7 overclocks. It just means it performs better with l2n.
    
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post #326 of 679
There is no winner. That is why all the graphs are different. I think the problem is very few reviewers make clear in these graphs what clocks the cards are at. Most are "stock" which would be 925mhz core for 7970 and 1058mhz for the 680. Both cards remain very even. There is no winner so people who are saying there is a clear winner are wearing those tinted glasses. When someone has both cards in hand and makes a real comparison that isn't getting paid by some sponsor, I may believe it but for now, it seems like lining of the pockets determines the victor.

I may have to go buy a 680 locally for a day to bench both at 6048x1200 just to show how it is.
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post #327 of 679
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I've been talking with him too and so far his GPU is the best overclocker on OCN (that we've came across).. So your 7970 is winning against most 680s. He is able to get his core 50MHz higher than mine, and his RAM nearly 100MHz higher.
EDIT: I just ran heaven a few minutes ago on max settings and got 53.0FPS.. so it doesn't seem to scale very well with overclocks after a certain point (at least in heaven).
If we get voltage control the 680 will take the lead.. but according to EVGAJacob voltage control is not going to happen (at least for reference 680s). Since the BIOS are also digitally signed, no way to force voltage with a BIOS flash either. We would have to pencil mod, or physically mod in order to increase it. =/

Probably because he bought his card in Germany so got complete different batch. 1.2Ghz almost 90% of HD 7970 can do providing its cool enough.
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post #328 of 679
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Probably because he bought his card in Germany so got complete different batch. 1.2Ghz almost 90% of HD 7970 can do providing its cool enough.

1200 is not that high really. I have to slightly boost voltage to get there but I have one of the lower voltage 7970's so my total volts at 1200 are below what some stock 7970s ship with. So happy I got a nice chip for once.

If Nvidia does allow voltage control for future 680s I wonder if it changes the dynamics of the race enough to put it ahead of the 7970. Looks like there is a lot of people who voted in this poll without realizing you are voltage locked on a 680. If this is not the most aggresive OCP ever I don't know what is.
    
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1200 is not that high really. I have to slightly boost voltage to get there but I have one of the lower voltage 7970's so my total volts at 1200 are below what some stock 7970s ship with. So happy I got a nice chip for once.
If Nvidia does allow voltage control for future 680s I wonder if it changes the dynamics of the race enough to put it ahead of the 7970. Looks like there is a lot of people who voted in this poll without realizing you are voltage locked on a 680. If this is not the most aggresive OCP ever I don't know what is.

For your current OC how high does the fan get in games and what temps you get? Whats your VID?
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For your current OC how high does the fan get in games and what temps you get? Whats your VID?

Stock volts are 1112 in AB. For 1200 voltage is upped to 1174 (which is the stock voltage for most 7970s) and for 1260 voltage is 1225. For me in order to hit 1300 I have to set voltage to it's max 1300 level. It's stable enough to bench on there but I would never use it for every day gaming. In fact I have three OC profiles, 1125 stock volts, 1200, and 1260 with the voltages you see above. If I'm playing an easy game I'll lower it down to 1125.

My fan curve has a pretty slow rise. I keep it below 45 til it hits 80 C and then it rapidly goes up. In BF3 at 1260 the average temp seems to be about 81 degrees. Honestly though I don't play games all that much. If you'd like I'll take a screen with Afterburner in the top corner in BF to give you a good idea.
    
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