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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
  • 37% (130)
    AMD 7970
  • 62% (214)
    GTX 680
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post #341 of 679
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Originally Posted by polyzp View Post

Check out OBR's 3dmark 11 xtreme score, seems like hes purposly clocking the AMD lower (Why is everybody avoiding clock per clock) so it loses by a hair.. What would have made more sense is to run clock per clock, and reveal the REAL truth. not to mention, i have a feeling that the MSI isnt as loud as he makes it out to be.

http://www.obr-hardware.com/2012/03/best-oced-radeon-hd-7970-lightning-vs.html

Also note that the CPU score and combined score for the AMD is also lower.

The error in 3Dmark11 xtreme scores is around +-50 points overall, i have noticed this running many tests for 3dmark11 in my own review. So despite the clock difference, these cards are literally within error clock per clock, in 3dmark 11. (a benchmark that at first glance shows nvidia much further ahead when comparing stock 1100 mhz for gtx 680 vs stock 925 mhz for 7970)

His power consumption isn't accurate either. I didn't pull that much with my overclocked and overvolted 580...and I KNOW my 7970 pulls less than that.

Only 1200Mhz on the Lightning? Really? What an insult!
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post #342 of 679
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OBR is a perfect example of someone trying to show nvidia in best light, but even then the scores are within 2% of each other, which is smaller than the error in testing. Repeat twenty times for each, and you could have just as easily put the worst nvidia score with the best amd score and shown the opposite.
    
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post #343 of 679
I think its quite fair to compare the two cards at max OC at stock volts. Why? Because then there is a concrete result that applies to ALL cards. Anything above stock voltage is luck of the draw so one guy claiming that the 7970's are better because HIS card clocks to 1350mhz or whatever is not necessarily indicative of EVERY 7970. With testing done at stock voltage you can guarantee that EVERY card will perform at that level.. That's why Linus tested the two at max OC on stock voltage and I'm sure that's why most of these overclocked reviews are doing the same.
post #344 of 679
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

I think its quite fair to compare the two cards at max OC at stock volts. Why? Because then there is a concrete result that applies to ALL cards. Anything above stock voltage is luck of the draw so one guy claiming that the 7970's are better because HIS card clocks to 1350mhz or whatever is not necessarily indicative of EVERY 7970. With testing done at stock voltage you can guarantee that EVERY card will perform at that level.. That's why Linus tested the two at max OC on stock voltage and I'm sure that's why most of these overclocked reviews are doing the same.

Neither is comparing overclocks on stock voltage because not every card has the same stock voltage, or will reach the same overclock based on that voltage.
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post #345 of 679
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Neither is comparing overclocks on stock voltage because not every card has the same stock voltage, or will reach the same overclock based on that voltage.

No, there is no way to make things EXACTLY even but limiting the overclocks to stock voltage will give you as fair a comparison as is possible. I think its clear that these two cards are very even when overclocked as Pioneer and Kcuestag's results have shown. Anybody comparing the two for purchase ought to be looking at what they want to do with the card and deciding which one does that best. If you don't want to adjust voltages, want PhysX, and need lower power consumption the 680 is the best choice. If you need to use OpenCL and like to overvolt your cards get a 7970...
post #346 of 679
So in the end you we payed $50 to have HD 7970 2 months before. The only downside i see for the GTX680 is that i cant find a store that has it on stock. Also the fact that it does cost me more then i bough the HD 7970 for.
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post #347 of 679
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So in the end you we payed $50 to have HD 7970 2 months before. The only downside i see for the GTX680 is that i cant find a store that has it on stock. Also the fact that it does cost me more then i bough the HD 7970 for.


Extra 1GB of VRAM too.  Not that it makes much difference for most of us.

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I looked into some high o/ced 680 results : here

i tested the same settings on :
a crappy i7 920 o/c 3.8
crappy o/c to my 7970 (only CCC)
a crappy 7200 rpm old sata (low min fps)
and 16x AF (this guy runs only 4x)
and only 1 pass (too lazy to wait for second)

My result :

516

Not impressed at all with 680. Doesn't worth the hype imo.
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post #349 of 679
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I looked into some high o/ced 680 results : here
i tested the same settings on :
a crappy i7 920 o/c 3.8
crappy o/c to my 7970 (only CCC)
a crappy 7200 rpm old sata (low min fps)
and 16x AF (this guy runs only 4x)
and only 1 pass (too lazy to wait for second)
My result :
516
Not impressed at all with 680. Doesn't worth the hype imo.

But let me guess, you are super impressed with your 7970 that performs the same but at a higher cost of efficiency and price? rolleyes.gif
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relative performance, a 6970 is more powerful than a 480... across all boards... this is irrelevant and misconstrued information
    
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