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Poll Results: AMD 7970 of GTX 680, Who is King?

 
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    AMD 7970
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    GTX 680
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post #351 of 679
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

But let me guess, you are super impressed with your 7970 that performs the same but at a higher cost of efficiency and price? rolleyes.gif

I got almost the same result with far less o/c on core and mem. So yes the word efficiency suits perfectly for my 7970. As for the price , yes i believe that 7970 and even 680 are both highly overpriced.
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post #352 of 679
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For comparison sake, the GTX 580 absolutley destroyed the 6970 clock per clock.

maybe... but the 6970 is equal too or better in crossfire...
    
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post #353 of 679
Wow fanboy war here.
I'm in. LoL
But the gtx680 does the same performance as a 7970 with around 500 less cores, less power, for $50 less and have physx!
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post #354 of 679
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discussion is between a gtx 680 and a 7970, but i was getting at thre fact that a gtx 580's clock didnt need to be so high to perform so well. A GTX 580 at 1100 mhz will more than likley beat a gtx 680 at the same clok.
    
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post #355 of 679
With all of the trouble 680 owners are having overclocking, I'm led to believe Nvidia clocked these chips as aggressively as they could to just barely edge out the 7970 at stock, but fortunately for us 7970 owners, we have up to 400mhz of extra headroom on our chips wink.gif
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post #356 of 679
It's obvious what Nvidia did with these cards and any one that can't see it is blind.

They made GK104, see that with some aggressive clocking that it can compete with the 7970, so release that and save GK110 for another time and place.

GK104 was designed to be a mid-range part and as such was destined for mid-range clocks and not 1Ghz+ that it released with but Nvidia decided to clock it high and go after the 7970 with it.

Aggressive clocks on GK104 while proving to be a win at stock meens that when overclocked the 7970 easily beats it.
post #357 of 679
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With all of the trouble 680 owners are having overclocking, I'm led to believe Nvidia clocked these chips as aggressively as they could to just barely edge out the 7970 at stock, but fortunately for us 7970 owners, we have up to 400mhz of extra headroom on our chips wink.gif

We've already been over this in the main news thread. GTX 680 has a couple hundred mhz typically in it at most, and is NOT any more difficult to OC than previous video cards (it's a new way of doing it though so people don't get the gist of it yet). GTX 680 oc's also can almost always be done on quiet, auto fan, without even having to manually test/tweak voltage, just clock offset (which is super-easy comparatively). A 7970 reaches ~1100, 1125 on stock cooling without raising volts *in general* and maintaining reasonable non-deafening vacuum-cleaner noise levels. So, really, stock-card to stock-card, they OC about the same, and the GTX 680 remains faster. Now, at full-out max OC'ing including voltage raises, the radeon 7970 can finally catch up, but it becomes noisy, hot, etc. and a GTX 680 is still $50 cheaper.
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post #358 of 679
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I am tired of people saying the gtx 680 is midrange when it costs 550 USD after taxes.. If it really was made to compete with the 7870 then its pricing would reflect that, obviously it was designed to compete with the 7970. GK110 will be a bigger jump from the gtx 680 than the gtx 680 is from 7970, but not by much (i am guessing 10-15%) with better overclockability. This card (GTX 685) will cost 599 USD, the 7970 will adjust to 449 USD, and the 7990 will cost 899 USD. Nvidia's dual card solution will be based on gk104, keeping the price is accordance with the 7990. AMD might or might not have an answer to the GTX 685. (They never did for the GTX 285 back in the day) But never the less, their flagship dual cards will be neck and neck, it comes down to which runs cooler and which can clock higher while overclocked.
    
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We've already been over this in the main news thread. GTX 680 has a couple hundred mhz typically in it at most, and is NOT any more difficult to OC than previous video cards (it's a new way of doing it though so people don't get the gist of it yet). GTX 680 oc's also can almost always be done on quiet, auto fan, without even having to manually test/tweak voltage, just clock offset (which is super-easy comparatively). A 7970 reaches ~1100, 1125 on stock cooling without raising volts *in general* and maintaining reasonable non-deafening vacuum-cleaner noise levels. So, really, stock-card to stock-card, they OC about the same, and the GTX 680 remains faster. Now, at full-out max OC'ing including voltage raises, the radeon 7970 can finally catch up, but it becomes noisy, hot, etc. and a GTX 680 is still $50 cheaper.

From what I've just seen in the GTX680 overclocking thread a 1150Mhz 7970 was matching a 1200Mhz+ GTX680 in heaven redface.gif
post #360 of 679
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We've already been over this in the main news thread. GTX 680 has a couple hundred mhz typically in it at most, and is NOT any more difficult to OC than previous video cards (it's a new way of doing it though so people don't get the gist of it yet). GTX 680 oc's also can almost always be done on quiet, auto fan, without even having to manually test/tweak voltage, just clock offset (which is super-easy comparatively). A 7970 reaches ~1100, 1125 on stock cooling without raising volts *in general* and maintaining reasonable non-deafening vacuum-cleaner noise levels. So, really, stock-card to stock-card, they OC about the same, and the GTX 680 remains faster. Now, at full-out max OC'ing including voltage raises, the radeon 7970 can finally catch up, but it becomes noisy, hot, etc. and a GTX 680 is still $50 cheaper.

I dont know how about GTX680 benefit from Water Cooling but the fact that HD 7970 can clock high means that you can go water not just being cool and quite but OC good too. You can get a 1.4v Bios and push it over 1250Mhz even for a poor card. I dont know how much the power delivery system will handle when it comes to 680.
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